Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free than several years ago

Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by moralestapia on Thursday September 02, 2021 @10:54PM (#28399924)

>or having a party past 10pm

Unfortunately, sometimes, freedom is a zero-sum game. I'd rather be free to sleep comfortably at night, than being "freee tooo parrtyyyy, broooo". And those who complain about this are usually the kind of people I wouldn't want near my house.

I love to have the freedom to live in a regulated neighborhood with like-minded people and those who don't like it are free as well to go buy a house literally anywhere else in the world.

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by Nerwesta on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:09PM (#28399995)

There is a saying in French, "La liberté des uns s'arrête là où commencent celle des autres". I'm not sure if it's known in English, I never read it online that's for sure, so I just roughly translated word by word :

The freedom of someone ends where the freedom of others begins.

Basically saying that living in a stable society is like signing a contract to restrain your liberty of doing anything when it's proved harmful for the others.

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by JoshTriplett on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:18PM (#28400038)

A common English equivalent is "your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins": https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/10/15/liberty-fist-nose/

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by Nerwesta on Friday September 03, 2021 @02:09AM (#28400942)

Thanks, today I learnt the equivalent !

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by DiabloD3 on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:58PM (#28400277)

I've been saying that verbatim in English for years. I didn't know it originated as a French saying.

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by cobertos on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:00PM (#28399950)

There really isn't a whole lot of agency in house buying or house building though. At least not at a mere mortals price point.

Real estate is costly, you have permitting, ordinances at city and county level, building codes... Doing anything nonstandard is hard and requires a lot of time, knowledge, and/or money

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by nradov on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:53PM (#28400243)

That really depends on the area. There are still rural counties where land is cheap and you can easily get a building permit as long as the plans are up to code.

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Re:Pavel Durov: Most studies show humanity is now less free ... by addicted on Thursday September 02, 2021 @11:30PM (#28400109)

Besides, it’s not even true. You’re allowed to have a party as late as you want. Just keep the music indoors

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