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Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by mustafa_pasi on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:17AM (#28391152)
How do these alternate Android distros play along with important apps, like for online banking and so?
Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by n8cpdx on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:38AM (#28391327)
People always bring up online banking, and its so fascinating to me; I've basically always (since 2010 at least) done banking online using mobile web. Are there any institutions that require using an app? For one of my institutions, the app is just a wrapper around the mobile site anyway.

I made the switch to GrapheneOS recently and its been quite pleasant overall, relative to expectations.

Everything else just works, barring notifications for some apps and things that are obviously Google-oriented (e.g. google camera). Also, location is seriously degraded, because it actually _only_ works with GNSS, as far as I can tell.

I've been making the switch to sites pinned to home screen for things that aren't useful offline (banking, weather) and that's been working well, but largely unnecessary. I just really don't trust Android apps generally.

Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by pshirshov on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:33AM (#28391781)
> Are there any institutions that require using an app?

Yes, there are. In order to log into Revolut web UI you need to confirm your login through their app.

There are many other examples but so far I didn't find any single banking app which doesn't work on MicroG.

From what I've heard russian Sberbank doesn't work without safetynet though.

Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by mustafa_pasi on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:43AM (#28391369)
I have bank accounts with many banks and all but one require an app. It acts as a security dongle amongst other things.
Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by fsflover on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:56AM (#28391479)
When your bank forces you to use insecure devices and support duopoly, you should complain and find a better one.
Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by pshirshov on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:34AM (#28391794)
Good luck finding a better bank among 3 (three, effectively as two are leaving soon) banks operating in Ireland.
Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by pshirshov on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:30AM (#28391758)
In most of the cases either GrapheneOS + sandboxed Play Services or CalyxOS + MicroG works just fine with banking apps or any other apps.

What's not working: apps using strict SafetyNet checks, in-app purchases (on MicroG), GPlay license checks (on MicroG). And rest assured, location services will be a real pain in your ass on Graphene (and sometimes DejaVu may deadlock on Calyx, better turn it off completely and replace with "GSM Location" Unified NLP backend).

Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by fragileone on Thursday September 02, 2021 @09:08AM (#28391581)
Every bank app is different. I'd advise getting a cheap phone which supports LineageOS (ROM with the widest device support) and see if it works there first. You can also try LineageOS with microG builds to see if it only needs basic verification with Play Services in order to work.
Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by ekianjo on Thursday September 02, 2021 @08:37AM (#28391319)
If you only rely on Fdroid as an app store, you won't have access to any banking app.

this being said, my personal viewpoint is that a phone is the last device in the world where I would consider to do any kind of banking activity.

Re:NitroPhone – Pixel 4a phone with GrapheneOS by jmnicolas on Friday September 03, 2021 @05:52AM (#28402234)
Assuming it's still receiving security updates, your phone is probably much more secure than your laptop.