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Re:65k fake students applied for financial aid in wide commu... by rbanffy on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @02:03PM (#28383469)
> why not set up and support trade schools instead?

If you do that, you severely limit social/economical mobility. Is that what you want?

Re:65k fake students applied for financial aid in wide commu... by ericmay on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @02:44PM (#28384003)
I hate these kinds of presumptive one-liners that are like a big Trojan horse filled with red herrings and straw men... Anyway:

Why would this limit social and economic mobility?

If it does limit social and economic mobility, does that mean our process for mobility is flawed? Does there need to be a reassessment of what is valuable in society? Are plumbers or mechanics "less valuable" than a business analyst or marketing professional? What about a hospice care worker or a grocer? Are we focusing on college degrees because of historical baggage? Should we have more courses in computer science or agriculture, or more courses in literature? More of all? Less of all?

Recall that social and economic mobility don't just go up, they go down too.

Can we look to countries like Germany that have healthy vocational and technical training programs?

And why would you think that I would want to severely limit social and economic mobility? What are you implying here? I don't get it.

Re:65k fake students applied for financial aid in wide commu... by majormajor on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @03:29PM (#28384528)
How so?

One major problem today is that most bachelor's degrees are required but not sufficient for many not-particularly-socially-upward jobs. So go in debt to still not have mobility.