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Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by arnaudsm on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:16PM (#28375182)
This is an huge deal : the 5700U is faster than the Mac M1 at the same wattage https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Apple-M1-8-Core-3200-MH...
Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by mercutio2 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:44PM (#28375355)
If you have embarrassingly parallel loads, sure.

But:

    CPU Single Thread Rating
    Apple M1  - 3,778
    AMD 5700U - 2,636
suggests that "is faster" is going to depend on your perspective. Most loads I care about are single threaded.

The 5700U is 8% faster on a synthetic multi-core benchmark vs. 30% slower on a single core benchmark. I know which CPU I'd choose if I had a choice.

Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by borgbean on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @12:06AM (#28376321)
I also doubt the AMD chip got those results anywhere near the 15w TDP. I didn't find concrete numbers on the 5700U, though.

I would take an AMD chip over the M1 in a desktop any day, but not in a laptop.

Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by ksec on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @01:21AM (#28376651)
It is even worst considering

1. The Max boost clock of 5700U is 4.3Ghz. Compared to M1 at 3.2Ghz

2. The TDP of 5700 is Typical TDP, it doesn't actually take into account of boost. Not that it matters in a single thread performance comparison because it wont use 15W per single core, but still relevant info to keep in mind.

On the other hand this is a Zen 2 on 7nm compared to M1 on 5nm. The Gap would be less if it was on Zen 3 and 5nm. But even then my guess it would something like 3000, still quite a bit to go to catch up with 3800.

Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by throwaway2037 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @12:59AM (#28376573)
Woah. Nice quote about "CPU Single Thread Rating". Can you share a source?

I can understand why there is this real push to reverse engineer the M1 platform to get Linux running on it! The efficiency per watt is amazing.

Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by mercutio2 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @04:19PM (#28385070)
I just pulled that from the link I was responding to!
Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by mixmastamyk on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @10:47PM (#28375993)
We're lucky now to be in the ballpark.
Re:System76 Pangolin Linux-first laptop with AMD internals n... by hu3 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @02:57AM (#28377107)
Now imagine if AMD could also use 5nm like Apple.

Chip shortage is hurting a lot.