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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by fasteddie31003 on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:13PM (#28363567)
1. Phos Chek is probably better than the long term effects from a wildfire. I would recommend looking more into consiquentalists ethics. 2. The mountains have excesses of water in the spring which could easily be sequestered for wildfire season. 3. I own land and live in a wildfire prone area. I will not be moving out to live in a human shit ridden city. I am prefer nature over close human habitation.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by zoltar on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:19PM (#28363607)
Anyone else enjoy the dissonance in this comment between the consequentialism reference and refusal to relocate?
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by Johnny555 on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:17PM (#28363589)
So you're more of a "Let's sacrifice the fish before I'll sacrifice my lifestyle" person?
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by fasteddie31003 on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:21PM (#28363615)
Yes, I would sacrifice the Sacramento River Smelt for more water for agriculture and humans. Again, I'm more of a consequentialist. I'm for forest management, which means cutting down some trees. Many modern environmentalist deontologists will call me a racist for suggesting we need to cut down some trees for the greater good.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by bronson on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @12:14AM (#28363929)
Your last sentence appears incoherent. Got links?

Are you willing to move out of fire country for the greater good?

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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by cdiamand on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:18PM (#28363602)
Is there an argument to be made for just letting the fires burn? Don't the fires have a positive effect on the soil?
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by animal_spirits on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:37PM (#28363702)
They do. Many species of conifer seed don't even begin to germinate until exposed to the heat of a wildfire. Fire's are a part of the natural lifecycle of a west coast forest. Unfortunately the over suppression of fires over the last 120 years has over fueled these forests and we are witnessing the consequences now.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by nradov on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @12:06AM (#28363876)
In some areas too much fuel has accumulated, causing fires to burn so hot that they kill the trees and destroy the seeds. After that it can take many years for the forest to recover.

https://www.nationalforests.org/our-forests/your-national-fo...

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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by idiotsecant on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:45PM (#28363749)
Yes, fire is an essential part of these ecosystems.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by code_duck on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:27PM (#28363649)
Wildfires have many transformative and beneficial effects for an ecosystem when they happen naturally and haven’t been made unnaturally large by 100 years of eager suppression.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by germinalphrase on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:22PM (#28363621)
Your nature may be (re)turning into a desert, unfortunately.
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Re:Forest Service officials close all California national fo... by kronin on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:32PM (#28363680)
Wildfires burn up all the dead brush and make way for new growth, along with fertilizing the soil.
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