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Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by dragonwriter on Monday August 30, 2021 @11:38AM (#28356730)
> Personally I don't think the issue is "3D fitting" - the issue is that the sizing and fit of clothes hasn't both been: standardized and quantified.

Yes, it has. The problem is that nontrivial clothing requires multidimensional fit which is impractical for mass-produced off-the-rack clothing, and marketing of mass-produced clothes is therefore driven by all kinds of things, none of which is using the well-established standardization and quantification of fit, which is used only by people making bespoke clothing or altering off-the-rack clothes for specific individuals.

Of course, unless it is paired by on-demand alteration, 3D fitting doesn't really address that problem.

But its not meant to (though the for-the-public image may be that), its to deal with the problem that taking clothes to actual fitting rooms increases handling, damage, theft losses, and the resulting policing and remerchandising is a major source of labor requirements for shops.

For the Gap, the problem this hopes to solve, or at least mitigate, is “retail employees”.

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by TaylorAlexander on Monday August 30, 2021 @06:11PM (#28361507)
As technology advances, it becomes easier for us to standardize and quantize the fit of clothes in increasing dimensions. And so instead of one product having a certain cut and then it’s just got a few sizes, we could have a continuously variable design which could be produced in 10,000 sizes. Stores could carry popular sizes but any prospective buyer could check if they have their ideal fit range in stock in any items, or could order the correct size by mail.

Of course the garment industry is still heavily reliant on human labor for manufacture and the model I describe would really only work if the process is basically fully automated. But it would be nice if my clothes didn’t rely on marginalized labor in Bangladesh so I’d like a fully automated source.

Anyway you’re not wrong that it’s impractical with the current way of doing things, but it seems fully automated clothing production is advancing, so perhaps in 20 years it will be possible.

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by na85 on Monday August 30, 2021 @01:11PM (#28358063)
>Yes, it has.

It most certainly has not. Even in men's legwear where your clothing is more or less fully defined by two measurements (waist circumference and inseam length), there are lots of variations between brands for garments with the same nominal size.

I have 2 pairs of billabong board shorts that are slightly too big and fall down if I don't cinch the drawstrings extra tight. Size 34 waist.

I have another 2 pairs of o'neill shorts that fit perfectly and don't fall down even if I don't lace up the drawstring at all. Size 34 waist.

Let's not even get into women's clothing where you can have such ill-defined terms like "size zero".

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by dragonwriter on Monday August 30, 2021 @09:16PM (#28362931)
> It most certainly has not.

It has, but, again, mass market clothing doesn’t use it. Bespoke clothing and tailoring does.

> Even in men's legwear where your clothing is more or less fully defined by two measurements (waist circumference and inseam length),

No, those are what mass-market panta tend to use as nominal size dimensions, with variations in the relation of those and other standard dimensions being brand or style variations (where there are options for some of them within a brand, typically multiple of them are collapsed together under another single axis like slim fit/classic fit/loose fit, which tends to lump ankle)

The standard measurements for men’s pants include all of:

waist circumference front and back crotch length hip circumference waist to knee length knee circumference thigh circumference calf circumference ankle circumference waist to ankle length inseam

(sometimes, some of these will be estimated based on visual inspection and the other measurements.)

> there are lots of variations between brands for garments with the same nominal size.

Yes, mass market clothing nominal sizes have no consistent relationship to even the things the subset of measures they noninally represent.

> Let's not even get into women's clothing where you can have such ill-defined terms like "size zero".

The only difference between women’s dress sizes and men’s pants sizes is that the former is a one-dimensional arbitrary ordinal category and the latter is two dimensional, and pretends to a (false) correspondence to a standard length measurement.

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by gruez on Monday August 30, 2021 @02:49PM (#28359399)
>Let's not even get into women's clothing where you can have such ill-defined terms like "size zero".

size zero at least makes sense if it's the smallest, and they're using zero based indexing. It really gets ridiculous when they have size 00.

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by phil_e_delphian on Monday August 30, 2021 @06:53PM (#28361892)
I've started selecting for brands that have more information than those two measurements. Seat and taper are more helpful, for instance.

More casual button-downs are also very frustrating, as sleeve length and chest circumference aren't provided accurately for S vs M vs L

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by noja on Monday August 30, 2021 @02:45PM (#28359350)
> Size 34 waist.

If you want an extra shock: measure your waist. It's not 34 inches!

Re:Gap acquires 3D fitting room startup Drapr by hn_user82179 on Monday August 30, 2021 @06:47PM (#28361829)
Agreed, and that's also not taking into account vanity sizing, where the differences in sizes is on purpose