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Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by amarshall on Saturday August 28, 2021 @06:26PM (#28342066)
> End to end encryption has always meant transport encryption not encryption at rest.

Sure, but if someone in the middle wants to store, then they don’t have anything unencrypted to store. Ultimately it all depends what one defines the “ends” as. In general for backup, both ends are the user. For chat, the sender and recipient. Apple is not an end, but a provider in the middle.

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Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by d1sxeyes on Sunday August 29, 2021 @05:43AM (#28345447)
User A messages user B using iMessages.

User B screenshots all of those messages and uploads them unencrypted to a random FTP server.

Now replace the random FTP server with iCloud. Or Google Drive. Does that change the nature of the messaging between User A and User B? I would say it doesn't. In fact, WhatsApp does basically the same.

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Re:Apple can read your iMessages (even though they’re E2E en... by amarshall on Sunday August 29, 2021 @07:18PM (#28351386)
No, but it means the backup is not end to end.
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