The Evolution of Smalltalk from Smalltalk-72 to Squeak [video]

Re:The Evolution of Smalltalk from Smalltalk-72 to Squeak [v... by pjmlp on Saturday August 28, 2021 @05:40AM (#28336817)

Gilad had nothing to do with Dart 2.0, in fact it goes very much against his beliefs in language design.

All the key designer from Dart 1.0 left Google shortly after Chrome dropped support.

The language only got rescue thanks to AdWords not wanting to rewrite their stack yet again (they had recently migrated away from GWT).

Afterwards Flutter provided the necessary funding to keep improving the language as they replaced JavaScript with Dart.

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Re:The Evolution of Smalltalk from Smalltalk-72 to Squeak [v... by mhd on Saturday August 28, 2021 @10:02AM (#28338138)

I haven't kept up with Dart, as I kinda fail to see the point right now, so can you elaborate a bit on how you think the current design is going against Gilad Bracha's convictions?

Language evolution is an interesting thing, especially when you've got corporate influence, second system effect etc. Or simply the need to add stuff, as languages are considered just another product, and otherwise you're considered "stale" in today's market. Weird.

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Re:The Evolution of Smalltalk from Smalltalk-72 to Squeak [v... by pjmlp on Saturday August 28, 2021 @10:15AM (#28338249)

Gilad is strongly into dynamic type systems and pluggable types (Dart 1.0, Typescript and so on).

http://bracha.org/Site/Papers.html

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Re:The Evolution of Smalltalk from Smalltalk-72 to Squeak [v... by igouy on Saturday August 28, 2021 @11:09AM (#28338645)

Quite. But is that what virtualwhys meant?

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