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Re:Mental health impacts of a big tech job by jazzyjackson on Saturday August 28, 2021 @12:50AM (#28335719)
if you start measuring suicides it could just push companies to weed out depressed people from their hiring pool, possibly increasing suicides overall by trying to avoid being painted as the cause (I tend to think the most ironic outcome is the most likely)
Re:Mental health impacts of a big tech job by acituan on Saturday August 28, 2021 @01:38AM (#28335902)
> it could just push companies to weed out depressed people from their hiring pool

I’m not saying this is the best metric but they would find that sort of treatment to be highly ineffective. Lifetime prevalence of depression and the depression at any given time are different things; it would be like trying to weed out all future cases of flu based on symptoms at hire time. Either way it wouldn’t make a dent on flu caused by the work environment itself.

Re:Mental health impacts of a big tech job by burnished on Saturday August 28, 2021 @02:09AM (#28336007)
How would they do that? Hiring seems like such a ritualized practice anyway, I'm not sure how you'd even determine something like that.
Re:Mental health impacts of a big tech job by pessimizer on Saturday August 28, 2021 @08:28AM (#28337515)
I've heard (and agree with) a similar argument about guns and mental illness. Taking away people's guns (or ability to buy guns) because of mental illness is a perverse disincentive for them to seek help.

It's a simple solution, but a bad one. The alternative is to overwhelm people with complete availability and encouragement of help, and while helping them, convince them that it's not in their best interest to own guns (ideally to agree to give up their right to own guns.) Actually effective change is expensive, so will not be done.

That being said, tracking tech suicides doesn't have to track the companies they work for in order to indicate if there's something wrong with the culture. Theoretically, identification of companies would certainly help to figure out what that wrong thing is, though the metric would immediately be gamed in the way you describe and exacerbate the situation.

Re:Mental health impacts of a big tech job by throw48738 on Saturday August 28, 2021 @03:47AM (#28336363)
Yeah or the companies get sued like French telecom company Orange because of proper news coverage and labor laws.