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Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by sen on Thursday August 26, 2021 @06:56PM (#28322090)
I pay for YouTube premium but still see them. That’s not OK, especially when the creators make 10x more money off YouTube Premium users than from ad-based users.

YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users.

As for why downloading, I download any/every video I find useful so I don’t have to go back to YouTube to watch it later. Everything from blender tutorials to car build videos that taught me something to music video clips and generally just anything interesting. It all goes to my NAS and I can instantly pull it up for reference and scrub quicker and don’t have to deal with YouTube’s increasingly annoying website.

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by sbarre on Thursday August 26, 2021 @07:30PM (#28322373)
> YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users.

I have read that more and more creators use sponsored segments because that pays much better than YT revshare..

So they may not care about the Premium user experience as much, and if Premium lets people skip sponsored segements, that might drive down the overall segment viewership, AND increase Premium subscribers and then it's a lose-lose for the creator since those segments will be less and less valuable to the sponsor.

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by sen on Thursday August 26, 2021 @08:06PM (#28322671)
They're talking about the free ad-watching type users. It's been published by multiple creators that YT Premium is easily their biggest income stream but there's just very very few people willing to pay Premium (for most creators it's like 1-2% or less).

If YouTube made it more appealing to buy Premium, eg by letting you block sponsored segments, download videos easily, etc etc... everyone would win.

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by sbarre on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:56AM (#28327842)
I’ve heard the opposite, that people don’t really see a bump from premium.

While I’m sure it’s different for every creator I would be curious to see the math.

But you may be right.

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by saghm on Thursday August 26, 2021 @11:19PM (#28323940)
> YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users

I have to imagine it wouldn't be long before some clever sponsor offers extra money not to mark their sections...

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by skinkestek on Friday August 27, 2021 @12:58AM (#28324446)
Solution: a report ad button for Premium subscribers.

Once a significant (number && percentage) of users report it kt is flagged,

- first to the creator

- and then shortly afterwards - if the creator does not either fix it or verify it - to a review team or even to a customer panel

Some logic can be applied to filter out abuses of the system by:

- looking for reports by new viewers of this channel (brigading)

- dismissing / less weighting for people who have previously attempted to abuse the report button

- look at the clustering of reports in time

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by pbhjpbhj on Friday August 27, 2021 @06:10AM (#28326007)
Surely as soon as you have this there'll be a service to leak the time codes to non-subscribers so embeds, yt-dl's forks, etc. can auto-skip.
Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by skinkestek on Friday August 27, 2021 @06:46AM (#28326192)
Already happens which us a good thing given how YouTube drag their feet on this.

Maybe there had been less enthusiasm around such projects though if they didn't have legitimate uses?

Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by f1refly on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:35AM (#28324612)
Why not just use the original sponsorskip at that point?
Re:Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and f... by skinkestek on Friday August 27, 2021 @01:42AM (#28324645)
Im not against sponsorskip.

I'm just pointing out that this should be the job of the premium team at YouTube, not left to subscribers.

so:

- Sponsorskip is a good solution to a problem that shouldn't exist

- If YouTube cared they could make this an even better experience and make sure both honest producers, paying customers and sponsors got a better deal. Today the revenue maximizing play seems to be to add sponsors on top of premium and hope advertisers doesn't realize they are being skipped.