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Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by leroy_masochist on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:27PM (#28317052)
It looks like Palantir is blaming FBI's mismanagement of ACLs as the root cause of what happened here.
Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by 1MachineElf on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:50PM (#28317382)
The relationship must be very strained already if they are publicly blaming each other. Customers always blame their vendors. On the Palantir side, their account/product managers should be asking whether or not their ACL config is sufficiently intuitive. If this mistake was easy for a customer to make, if it's a mistake that couldn't have been avoided without consultancy, then Palantir should treat it like a defect.
Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by verall on Thursday August 26, 2021 @01:14PM (#28317672)
It's because the FBI doesn't have any leverage to threaten palantir for passing the blame. "Government agency is incompetent" is a very potent narrative that blocks the usual expectation that cloud products should be difficult to use insecurely.

Complaining publicly has no downsides for palantir here.

Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Thursday August 26, 2021 @01:45PM (#28318104)
Their leverage is contract. Palantir's position as vendor of choice is kinda limited right now. They don't seem to service regular corps in US.

The complaint can have a real ramifications ( loss of future contracts and so on ). That said, at certain point enough is enough I suppose.

Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by ErikVandeWater on Thursday August 26, 2021 @04:38PM (#28320388)
> "Government agency is incompetent" is a very potent narrative that blocks the usual expectation that cloud products should be difficult to use insecurely.

Whether the government purchased a defective product that was insecure or misused a good product, the government should be held to account for the failure, same as with any company.

Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by yasp on Thursday August 26, 2021 @01:39PM (#28317991)
Palantir can host its products on-prem, and for the FBI very well might have. But where it was hosted wouldn't have any relevance here.
Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by mcguire on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:52PM (#28317402)
Ultimately, that's why the customer is paying the vendor.
Re:FBI Palantir glitch allowed unauthorized access to privat... by sfvisser on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:51PM (#28317395)
Could as well be. Properly managing access controls for a complicated data platform might actually be harder than securing the software to begin with. Setting up protocols for who is able to access what and why and who is in charge of changing the config is non-trivial.