Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning
by bobthepanda on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @11:16PM
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In fact, depending on where you live, water appliance efficiency has reduced sewer flows to the point where systems stop functioning, since a lot of systems are designed around a minimum amount of flow to make things move.
Most water consumption these days comes from the state's agriculture, which bringing more residents in would not really impact since denser housing would not really go in areas that are rural.
Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning
by wyager on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:08AM
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As with living in a crowded bug-hive apartment building instead of a house, reducing water consumption by making showers, toilets, washing machines, dishwashers, and other appliances function poorly is just masking a real decline in standard of living by clipping coins.
“We’ve reduced water, power, meat, and space consumption by XX%” is not good news. That just means we’re getting poorer. Good news would be “we’ve halved the cost of water, power, meat, and space, so everyone have a good time”.
Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning
by eli_gottlieb on Thursday August 26, 2021 @03:26PM
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The contradiction here is that, overwhelmingly, the most effective way to decrease the price of space (in terms of square mile per person of land) is to increase unemployment -- which basically nobody actually wants.
Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning
by nradov on Thursday August 26, 2021 @04:04PM
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Some Northern California cities are literally out of water.
https://ktla.com/news/california/please-conserve-water-touri...
In the Monterey Peninsula area residential building permits have been restricted for years due to a persistent water shortage. That's been going on since well before the current drought.
IOW, there's plenty of slack in existing cities, especially the older coastal cities, which were originally planned and built for far greater density than permitted now, and at a time when per capita usage was far greater. If anything, continuing to incentivize urban sprawl is the surest way to overburden water infrastructure, especially supply.