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Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning by wyager on Thursday August 26, 2021 @12:08AM (#28310593)
As with living in a crowded bug-hive apartment building instead of a house, reducing water consumption by making showers, toilets, washing machines, dishwashers, and other appliances function poorly is just masking a real decline in standard of living by clipping coins.

“We’ve reduced water, power, meat, and space consumption by XX%” is not good news. That just means we’re getting poorer. Good news would be “we’ve halved the cost of water, power, meat, and space, so everyone have a good time”.

Re:To save California, sacrifice single-family zoning by eli_gottlieb on Thursday August 26, 2021 @03:26PM (#28319416)
The contradiction here is that, overwhelmingly, the most effective way to decrease the price of space (in terms of square mile per person of land) is to increase unemployment -- which basically nobody actually wants.