Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by drexlspivey on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:05PM
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Steve Jobs also tried to hire Linus Torvalds to work on their BSD kernel (lol)
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Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by winter_blue on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:07PM
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macOS should have just used the Linux kernel. The fairly complex and difficult-to-duplicate Cocoa UI layer would have made the odds of a macOS-compatible open-source clone appearing anytime in the near future slim.
Even today, I hope Apple makes a switch to their own patched version of the Linux kernel. It would be a great breath of new air into macOS. In terms of sheer features and compatibility, the Linux kernel surpasses Darwin by massive measures.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by cmrdporcupine on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:49PM
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NeXTStep was built around BSD, and so BSD followed through to MacOS, which is really frankly just re-skinned NeXTStep. I'm pretty sure it would have been a real PITA to rework it around Linux at that point. Lots of existing applications and tools would have had to have been reworked.
And at that time (late 90s) the Linux kernel was certainly awesome but not clearly that much more awesome than BSD. The amount of driver and architecture support in the kernel wasn't as expansive as now.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by sangnoir on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @02:59PM
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Apple has a visceral dislike/distrust of the GPL, and goes to great lengths to avoid it - like authoring an entirely new compiler (clang) to replace the GPL-licensed gcc. This is also the reason why the version of bash bundled with Apple OSes is ancient.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by phendrenad2 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @12:59AM
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The problem is the difficulty in mixing in proprietary blobs. The only way to link proprietary drivers into the kernel is the way Nvidia does it, and it's a legal grey area to this day.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by HWR_14 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @01:00AM
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If Steve Jobs had hired Linus, would OSX still be BSD based as opposed to Linux based?
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by speed_spread on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @12:03PM
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Those conversations would have been fun to hear.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by samplatt on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:22PM
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Seriously? Wow. Talk about tone-deaf.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by phendrenad2 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @01:00AM
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How so? Many engineers have given up on their ideals when a large enough paycheck is waved in front of them.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by ineedasername on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:25PM
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What an amazing clash of personalities that would have been.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by dfee on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:40PM
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Guido had 6.5 years at Dropbox. That always surprised me.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by alisonkisk on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:47PM
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Why? That paid him to work on Python.
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by sumedh on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @08:19AM
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What did Dropbox get in return?
Re:Two perspectives on a designer who Steve Jobs could not hire
by icegreentea2 on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @08:30AM
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Here's Dropbox's goodbye post:
https://blog.dropbox.com/topics/company/thank-you--guido
To summarize:
* Having THE language creator (dropbox was majority Python) around is super useful, especially from a soft-technical standpoint. Imagine the confidence boost a junior gets from that.
* Worked on mypy