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Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by captainredbeard on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:09AM (#28289846)
Vaccination doesn't stop the spread of the delta variant, so I'm not sure how that would have helped enough to prevent an outbreak.
Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by amluto on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:39AM (#28290293)
Vaccination likely dramatically slows the spread. Even with the most pessimistic non-peer-reviewed numbers, Delta in a vaccinated (Pfizer or Moderna) population will spread no faster than original Covid in an unvaccinated population, and the death (and presumably long-term disability) toll will be substantially reduced.

As a non-expert, IMO the most pessimistic numbers are likely to be more pessimistic than warranted.

Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by incrudible on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:51AM (#28290462)
I do not see that. Compare Iceland or Israel or Netherlands to India. It spread very quickly in either case.
Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by coronqueue on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @03:17PM (#28293533)
It's almost a myth that Israel is highly vaccinated, and the vaccine is far more effective in Israel than first meets the eye.

A significant % of Israel's entire population is currently too young to be eligible for vaccination.

There are two commonly reported %s: percent of population and percent of eligible population. That distinction matters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Structu...

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-...

Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by peakaboo on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @04:11PM (#28294314)
No it doesnt. But they tell you it does...
Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by refurb on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:13AM (#28289913)
If your hospitals aren’t overwhelmed with the dying, an outbreak is a much more minor consequence.
Re:New Zealand Covid-19 Delta outbreak spreading rapidly as ... by captainredbeard on Wednesday August 25, 2021 @10:20AM (#28302021)
Okay, sure, but doesn't that remove my personal responsibility for vaccination? If it's only about my personal disease risk, I can make whatever choice I please.