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Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by yholio on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:21AM (#28287320)
Maybe someone can mount a legal challenge and establish case law. Document the whole buying process, copious advertising where Apple says you can purchase the device, then request the unlock code from Apple to run custom software.

If they refuse to provide it for purely commercial reasons despite having full technical ability to do so, you might have a case that you were misled into purchasing a subscription service. Ideally, you would find some advertised capability that is only enabled for apps sold though the App Store, a hidden subscription fee especially considering its onerous value.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by DaiPlusPlus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:40AM (#28287458)
Currently in progress: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/23/22399008/apple-lawsuit-ov...

As much as I want the court to decide that “buy” cannot mean anything less than “indefinite and irrevocable license” I’m expecting the judge to decide the case in Apple’s favour on the basis that consumer expectations have changed over the past 15 and that no “reasonable person” would expect a $15 impulse-buy of an intangible product to _last_. After all, you may have your VHS tapes from K-Mart you bought 30 years ago, but can you actually watch them? And you are “buying” a license to DRM’d content after-all and “buy” isn’t legally defined that way (Yes, I recognise it’s a terrible argument, just playing Devils’ advocate)

…or Apple will just change “Buy” to “Get” and it won’t make a difference to their bottom-line at all. I’ll bet that Apple’s profits - or even revenues - from purchases on iTMS for movies and TV shows are a rounding error compared to AppleTV+ subscriptions - and iPhone hardware sales, of course.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by TechBro8615 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:13AM (#28287769)
> After all, you may have your VHS tapes from K-Mart you bought 30 years ago, but can you actually watch them

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or just a bad example. Yes, you can still watch VHS tapes, since they're physical media that can be decoded by a VHS playback device. You might have trouble finding the hardware, but if you have the hardware, it will still run – it's not going to require a software update.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by DaiPlusPlus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:53AM (#28288176)
> I can't tell if this is sarcasm or just a bad example

A bad example given HN's audience - but I imagine of most normal-people, the majority of those with a VCR will have left it in the attic or basement and never bothered to connect it to their modern LCD TV. If it was a home-video camcorder vid then it's likely already converted to DVD if it's worth preserving.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by smichel17 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:42AM (#28288734)
Well, that's the difference, isn't it? People were able to convert their VHS to DVD. Doing that for DRM would be impractical and/or illegal.
Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by christophilus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @07:55AM (#28287593)
My guess is that Apple will say: “You’re free to root it and do what you want, but we don’t cover that with a warranty.”

In that sense, you do own an Apple product. But if you want to stay in their nice little walled garden, that ownership is more like buying a house that comes with a benevolent dictatorship HSA.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by DaiPlusPlus on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:50AM (#28288138)
Apple will never publicly admit to the possibility of rooting their devices, especially not to allow bypassing DRM: they'd lose all their friends in Hollywood overnight.
Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by iso1210 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:39AM (#28288695)
Disney is an enormous company, owning pretty much everything in the media world, dwarfing other hollywood companies.

It has a Market Cap of $320b, way bigger than Sony, Time Warner, Viacom and MGM put together.

Apple on the other hand is worth about 7 times as much as Disney.

Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by hermitdev on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:18AM (#28289975)
Yes, but a non-insignificant portion of their revenue comes from content from third-party media companies. They very much have an incentive to play ball with the likes of Disney & Sony, despite having the upper hand in terms of market cap.
Re:Apple’s crackdown on multicast by iso1210 on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @02:17PM (#28292815)
Or they could buy Disney and a couple of others