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Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by mikepurvis on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:38PM (#28281600)
An acquaintance of mine tried to do the cafe/sales/repair thing [1]; he went more high end on all three, selling fancy drinks, pricey Dutch cargo bikes, etc. It didn't work out. I think they lasted ~3 years, though it was clear by the end that the writing was on the wall.

[1]: https://twitter.com/berlinbikecafe

Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by jamincan on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:12AM (#28287758)
I'm not exactly sure why Berlin Bike Cafe didn't really work out in the end. I do think KW is very well served by existing bike shops, and while Graham focused on a market segment that isn't well-represented by incumbents, it meant that he needed time for it to grow as well. London Bike Cafe seems to be chugging along quite nicely on a similar model, so it doesn't seem like it was an entirely hopeless endeavour on the face of it.
Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by southerntofu on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:10PM (#28281997)
> he went more high end on all three

Maybe that was the problem there?

Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by mikepurvis on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:32PM (#28282265)
Possibly, but it was also not a large storefront, and it's been replaced by a boutique donut shop. It's down the street from a creperie, a wine bar, and some other bistro thing. There used to be a health food store on this block.

Basically just saying that some combination of floor space, rent and other fixed costs, etc etc led to pursuing a higher-end business model and it didn't work out. There may be lots of reasons for that, but one of the principles here is that you need to be able to bike to your bike store— it's not fulfilling its purpose if it's in a power center plaza that you need to drive to.

Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by JCharante on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:32PM (#28282264)
Yeah high-end cafe seems like a tough sell. A cheap cafe to go to during group rides sounds great for having people learn about your high end service shop.
Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by mikepurvis on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:35PM (#28282288)
I feel like high end bike service in general is a tough sell unless you have a huge local club-ride community of people whose time is extremely valuable.

I know someone who operated a Velofix van for a few years, and I used it a few times, but the minimum cost was basically $100+. For that much coin, I would just walk my bike home or take it on the bus. Particularly if it was something like a flat tire where I know I can fix it myself at home for a few dollars.

Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by snovv_crash on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @08:20AM (#28287831)
Berlin is the wrong place for that. Even in tech salaries are often in the EUR45k range gross, and with mandatory medical insurance at EUR400/m, rent at probably EUR800/m and still taxes it doesn't leave much for expensive bicycles.

Cheap bicycles plus good mid-priced service is where it's at. Of course, that's hard, dirty, skilled work.

Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by mikepurvis on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @09:01AM (#28288264)
Note that this is Berlin as in the pre-WWII name of Kitchener, Canada, not the Berlin in Germany.
Re:A bike parts company ditched Amazon to support indie shop... by snovv_crash on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @11:21AM (#28290023)
Ah, I saw a similar setup in Berlin, Germany at a location which has now been replaced by Rose Bikes, and the cafe seems to be gone.