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Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by mensetmanusman on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:46PM (#28278610)
Masks is too broad of a term as being used. There are OSHA environments where proper N95-type masks can protect you from aerosol risks for 8 hours a day.

The likelihood that a cloth mask can do that in a classroom however…

Best mitigator would be good HEPA room air purifiers, ideally multiple per classroom.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by handrous on Monday August 23, 2021 @01:11PM (#28278954)
> Best mitigator would be good HEPA room air purifiers, ideally multiple per classroom.

They can be too loud to run while class is in session, especially if they move enough air to be worth a damn. Double-especially if you're also masked (so speaking is already a bit muffled).

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by patentatt on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:29PM (#28281487)
I've got a couple of Coway HEPA purifiers, and they can be quiet enough for a classroom. At low speeds, the closest to inaudible that I've ever heard, and at higher speeds a very even and tolerable white/brown noise.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by handrous on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:26PM (#28282192)
I'm sure some that are good-enough and not loud exist, and some classrooms probably have them, but I can also say for a fact that some schools that have managed to get ahold of good purifiers for every classroom haven't also managed to get ahold of quiet good purifiers, which is why those schools only run them part of the time. It's another hurdle to the solution of "just filter the air", which isn't per se a bad idea—but, whoever's procuring them must think to look into the noise when choosing which to buy, must have the budget to buy quiet ones that move as much air as appropriately-effective louder models (I assume there's a cost premium for "quiet and also effective"), and if someone's already bought purifiers and they're too loud, you're out of luck on getting anyone to pony up cash for a second set of (maybe even more expensive) purifiers.
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by tehjoker on Monday August 23, 2021 @03:17PM (#28280646)
Why don't we shift classes to be outside and swap summer and winter for now?
Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by cpuguy83 on Monday August 23, 2021 @05:13PM (#28282041)
We seem to be forgetting something here: the aerosols we are protecting from are from other peoples nose and mouth, which are covered by a cloth mask which vastly reduces how much makes it into the air.

There is no "best" here, mitigations all mitigate different things and work together to provide a safer environment.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by Aeolun on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:27PM (#28283786)
> which are covered by a cloth mask which vastly reduces how much makes it into the air

Where do you think the extra air goes?

It still makes it into the air, just in different directions. Some of the viral particles are probably caught in the mask, but I’m not sure how much of the total we can count on.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by Aeolun on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:36PM (#28283850)
Yeah, you are correct of course. I’m using the general public definition of what constitutes a mask.

Specifically, anything that covers your mouth.

If we had enough N95 masks to give to everyone (and they’d actually wear them) we could stop the virus within a few weeks :P

Hell, just switching to surgical masks would make a ton of difference.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by mensetmanusman on Tuesday August 24, 2021 @10:49AM (#28289559)
We would need masks for pets though, and wild deer…