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Re:George Mason professor wins Covid antibody lawsuit as vac... by junon on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:49AM (#28275656)
> But the virus spreads among the vaccinated any way.

At an incredibly reduced rate, and mutations generally do not spread to others.

> Moreover, the global population of unvaccinated will not be meaningfully affected by any one country's decision to mandate vaccination.

I don't see how that's relevant to my original response.

> And the mutation rate is dependent on the size of the global population of virus carriers, not one country's.

I don't follow. Mutations occur irrespective of any human constructs such as nations, countries, borders, etc.

> So all-in-all, I see very weak justification for such a heavy handed mandate, no matter how useful I think vaccination is.

Take the opposite case. Nobody vaccinates, we stop caring. What is the outcome?

Half-assed approaches will only slow, not stop, the pandemic. It's not very hard to think critically about this...

Re:George Mason professor wins Covid antibody lawsuit as vac... by rajin444 on Monday August 23, 2021 @11:56PM (#28284927)
> Take the opposite case. Nobody vaccinates, we stop caring. What is the outcome?

We’ll never know. We have no proper controls. Just because B comes after A does not mean A implies B.

I’m exaggerating (some of our measures seem performative, but it looks like vaccines do a good job preventing severe illness), but places like Sweden would be decent to look at. They’ve had much better outcomes with nowhere near the restrictions.

Re:George Mason professor wins Covid antibody lawsuit as vac... by CryptoPunk on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:47PM (#28284601)
>>At an incredibly reduced rate, and mutations generally do not spread to others.

It's a fast enough where Iceland is now experiencing its largest wave yet, despite having a nearly fully vaccinated population. And why would vaccination stop mutated strains from spreading?

>>I don't see how that's relevant to my original response.

It's relevant to whether any one country has cause to mandate vaccination.

>>Mutations occur irrespective of any human constructs such as nations, countries, borders, etc.

My point is that - even if vaccination affected the size of the infected population and thus the opportunity for the virus to mutate - one country's decision to vaccinate will not meaningfully affect the global vaccination rate and therefore the global mutation rate.