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Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by oblio on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:07AM (#28275127)
We'll probably do a bunch of these. Vaccines, treatment for the worst symptoms and potentially treatment against the virus itself.

I think we're working on all these fronts.

I wonder how much we'll change/have to change our behavior long term, for example 10 years from now. I'd imagine not much.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by HarryHirsch on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:23AM (#28275304)
I wonder how much we'll change/have to change our behavior long term, for example 10 years from now. I'd imagine not much.

I'd say it's the exact opposite. It's known that immunity against coronaviruses isn't long-lasting (look at the Rev Jackson and his wife, both of whom were vaccinated early this year and are now in hospital) and that antiviral treatment needs to start early (does everyone really want to do a PCR test every other day so they can start antibody treatment early like Governor Abbot?)

We'll have to start wearing masks indoor and stop being in crowded rooms until the virus is eradicated. Right now, with the population half vaccinated, we are setting ourselves up for a re-run of Marek's disease, this time in people.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by ilammy on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:47AM (#28275635)
> until the virus is eradicated

But doesn't COVID have animal reservoirs? If it does, good luck vaccinating all the bats and monkeys of the world. Or what's the plan there? Wait until the virus has subsided “enough”, then... what exactly? Still be on guard 24/7/365/4, paranoidally testing each and every traveler, ready to quench a cluster formed around some volunteer returning from a distant part of the world?

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by HarryHirsch on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:54AM (#28275741)
Nonpharmaceutical interventions work pretty good. Plague is endemic in rodents in the Western US, there are actually a dozen human cases every year, but there aren't epidemics because we do rodent-proofing. Rabies has an animal reservoir, but we vaccinate our dogs.

Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of the ostrich strategy. Vaccination rates in Florida and Illinois are similar but in Florida, where they pretend Covid doesn't exist, the only thing they get is overflowing hospitals.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by ilammy on Monday August 23, 2021 @10:17AM (#28276074)
I'm more talking about some humans getting infected somewhere, then bringing it in from wherever they were, where precautions are lower than where you came from.

The way I see it, the long-term route is treating COVID like, say, malaria. You would get your vaccine when you travel places. Doctors would know what to test for based on your symptoms. But still, the contagiousness here is radically different. By the time you get to see your doctor, you could have infected dozens of people. So the most effective strategy is still isolation and pervasive testing?

IDK, I guess we will just have to sit there and see where we'll be with COVID in 5 years from now. Maybe the virus will really just get bored and go away (unlikely). If not, maybe people will get bored of being freaked out and more comfortable with the thought that electing a new government won't eradicate the virus but you can build more hospitals and keep getting your yearly COVID booster shots.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by erhk on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:12PM (#28278105)
Maybe if the chinese keep their same lockdown and close their border indefinitely, or maybe for new zealand this is the case but for countries in the EU and NA the cats out of the bag and it wont ever be eradicated.

I dont know who told you eradication was still an option but it stopped being one in feburary of 2020 when nCov19 started commmunal spreading.

This. Does not. Go. Away.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by oblio on Monday August 23, 2021 @09:41AM (#28275526)
What we should do and what we'll do will be very different.

5 years of reduced socialization will turn a large percentage of the population into nervous wrecks.

Re:The Coronavirus Is Here Forever by erhk on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:10PM (#28278057)
If we got every human being vaccinated with a 100% efficacious vaccine for all strains at the exact same time globally without pause then MAYBE eradication would be feasible.

Eradication is a fever dream, did you bother to read the attached article?