Jabs mostly fend off the Delta strain but breakthroughs are infectious

Re:Jabs mostly fend off the Delta strain but breakthroughs a... by helge9210 on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:16AM (#28274670)

> What's the mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated people in the hospital?

According to <https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-...> in Israel last week around 60% of critical cases are fully vaccinated.

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Re:Jabs mostly fend off the Delta strain but breakthroughs a... by shapefrog on Monday August 23, 2021 @08:38AM (#28274846)

Against 62.9% of 'entire' population vaccinated. ~80% of over 60's.

Depends what part of the population is being hospitalised, but not the 'best numbers'.

https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination-israel-impact

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Re:Jabs mostly fend off the Delta strain but breakthroughs a... by tynpeddler on Monday August 23, 2021 @12:36PM (#28278462)

That number does not mean what people think it does and is being bandied around as a result of extreme statistics illiteracy:

https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/israeli-data-how-can-...

Also, what is the world is going on in that preprint[0]? I can not follow their conclusions in Table 1 model 1.

Looking at Table 1 - Model 1, it looks like the 40+, early vaccinated cohort has only a 15%-30% chance of being infected as compared to the 40+, late vaccinated cohort.

The paper itself says they did some adjustments for co-morbidities, but has no description of what they did. So it looks like the paper's conclusion is directly the opposite of what's being shown in the Table 1 - Model 1.

[0]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.29.21261317v...

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