Even my bigoted critics deserve free speech

Re:Even my bigoted critics deserve free speech by slibhb on Sunday August 22, 2021 @03:32PM (#28268713)

> We have plenty of examples of censorship being effective. Take opposition to the US invasions of Iraq, for instance. Anyone who opposed it - even the Dixie Chicks, famously - was deplatformed and attacked in the media. There was no reasonable debate about whether it was a good idea. And it turned out it was not a good idea, and there were no WMDs, and it was a quagmire. But because opposition was pushed underground, it had no political power.

Decades later, the most common position among Americans is increasingly that the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea. Censorship did not work in the medium-run.

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Re:Even my bigoted critics deserve free speech by orwin on Sunday August 22, 2021 @04:15PM (#28269164)

Had the war been won in 2 years and a successful succession regime put in place in less than 5 years, censorship would've been successfull.

There is still places where you can buy "Freedom fries" in the US (until at least fall 2019, i've not been back in the US for obvious reasons)

You don't need it to work in the long term, you need it to work short-term and hope that you're right. Until the myth you created is deconstructed you are good. I'm not a huge fan of Baudrillard, but the point he raised in "The Gulf war do not exist" (he talked here about the first war) was basically unchallenged, and the myth of this war still stands. And i think Baudrillard have been well received in the US, no?

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Re:Even my bigoted critics deserve free speech by watwut on Sunday August 22, 2021 @04:15PM (#28269166)

> Censorship did not work in the medium-run

It worked perfectly. No one is preventing you saying it was mistake, because it literally does not matter.

It made War possible and the soldiers are still there.

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