Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by f6v on Saturday August 21, 2021 @02:04AM
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> but that trust is much harder when you can observe neither process, progress, or results
I don’t get it. There’s code and working features. That’s the result.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by herodoturtle on Saturday August 21, 2021 @04:03AM
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If I may humbly weigh in on this...
It's not just about the code, it's also about the culture.
Non-performing staff could be non-performing for different reasons - not just output - and it's often easier to spot those reasons (and address them) when you're working in the same office.
Source: I've been running a company with hybrid in-office + remote staff for 15 years. Would be happy to expand on the above if asked.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by vosper on Saturday August 21, 2021 @05:33AM
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15 years of experience with this kind of work puts you well ahead of most, so I’ll bite: please do expand on the above :)
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by Kiro on Saturday August 21, 2021 @05:38AM
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I take it you're not a professional slacker. It's so easy to game all these tracking systems.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by nostrademons on Saturday August 21, 2021 @03:33AM
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People who consistently deliver code and working features usually don't have a problem getting approved to work remotely. That's the case-by-case part. It's the people whose code is buggy or nonexistent and whose features don't work that are stuck in the office.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by lrem on Saturday August 21, 2021 @04:25AM
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But what is there's no code or code that is not used in a working feature? Both ends of the performance spectrum comprise people who don't really code.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by vidarh on Saturday August 21, 2021 @08:07AM
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You've just explained it yourself: there may not be enough code and/or working features.
Re:Google's payments team is seeing an exodus of executives ...
by watwut on Saturday August 21, 2021 @02:52AM
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I can tell with certainty that slacking in office is extraordinary simple. You can even slack your way to massive overtime, as you chat with this or that person, hang around, procrastinated with actual work or just plain browse reddit.
In most knowledge work - not just Google - you're fine as long as you're either putting in effort or getting results. After all, software development has plenty of risks, it's possible to fail to deliver for many reasons other than being lazy. But when you are neither putting in effort nor getting results, that's when you're at risk of getting fired, because the company starts to wonder why they're paying you. Remote work makes it much harder to observe the "putting in effort" piece.