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Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by HWR_14 on Friday August 20, 2021 @11:11PM (#28253804)
That's my point. You talked about companies that are 15, 5, and 5 years old as "not announcing a timeline they failed to hit" when I claimed they had produced nothing so far. Which, one, is a crazy standard to volunteer with Musk as he regularly fails to hit timelines he announces. But my point was he invests in things for years - decades - without any public progress but also without pulling out investment. The "heads I win, tails I flip again" is what I was commenting on. SolarCity (where, far from being uninvolved, Musk was Chairman of the Board) is older (in Elon involvement) than Tesla; if Tesla is a "success" how little would SolarCity have to do to be a "failure"?

How do you feel about Blue Origin, which Bezos regularly infused billions into before it finally got to its first flight?

The Hyperloop, is something Musk spent over a calendar year and numerous engineering assets working on before he decided to give up and open-source their work. If any of his projects was an unreserved failure, it was the hyperloop.

I don't get why you're so upset about this. I didn't say Musk was horrible. I just pointed out a lot of his projects tend to fail. I explicitly said that his success rate is good. I just also pointed out he has enough misfires that there's no reason to believe his announcements at this stage are going to see commercial availability.

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Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by panick21 on Monday August 23, 2021 @04:56PM (#28281819)
> The Hyperloop, is something Musk spent over a calendar year and numerous engineering assets working on before he decided to give up and open-source their work. If any of his projects was an unreserved failure, it was the hyperloop.

Can you provide me with a source on that? During that time he was full time for Tesla and SpaceX and they were very busy during that time with other projects. So I can't see how this much engineering was put into it.

Also, not doing a project is not the same as failing at doing something.

The result of the investigation was clearly, I think its a good idea but I have no time to do it. Maybe somebody else will.

I think he still hopes to eventually put a Hyperloop type system into a boring tunnel, but he thinks shorter range solution are more important and tunneling technology needs to improve to make it viable.

> SolarCity

I agree it could have been a failure, but also don't know that for sure.

> I don't get why you're so upset about this. I didn't say Musk was horrible. I just pointed out a lot of his projects tend to fail.

I am not upset, I just pointed out for the most part his projects do not fail. You pointed to one project they didn't actually do more then a initial technical evaluation on. And on project that could have failed, but actually didn't.

I think objectively if any person said 'I'm gone do X project' (that was considered incredibly difficult), I can't think of many that would have more credibility then Musk (ie Tesla, SpaceX or a new company).

A humanoid robot is a risky project for sure and it does not seem to be the same level of importance as batteries or reusable rockets, so maybe they will abandoned it at some point.

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