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Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Thursday August 19, 2021 @11:55PM (#28242389)
This reminds me of images from the 1900s depicting the future when there were humanoid robots with lots of arms cleaning lots of dishes at once. Of course, it turns out, we did invent a machine to wash dishes but its just called a dish washing machine and is way better at it than humans with arms.

I can't imagine many tasks where a humanoid will be useful. I'm sure you could say that something like house construction could be done by humanoids since there are lots of steps involved but I'm still skeptical that a bunch of specialized tools won't be better at this.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by Geee on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:13AM (#28242487)
I see it like computers. First there were special-purpose machines, which evolved into programmable general purpose computers. Probably many people said that there can't be so many computing tasks that programmability is needed. I think we'll find out how these will be used.
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:29AM (#28242594)
I suppose I see the computer as different as it doesn't try to copy anything in nature or existing in tech. ie Google isn't setup like a library, YouTube isn't setup like TV was, etc.

I could see a multi-use robot being used in some instances but I cannot fathom why it would be shaped like a human.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by Geee on Friday August 20, 2021 @01:05AM (#28242812)
Like I said, there are thousands of tools designed for humans. There are vehicles, ladders, protective suits etc. designed for humans. There are lots of spaces designed for humans in which it needs to move. It makes sense to design the robot so that it is compatible with all these.

And there's nothing wrong with human shape, it would be hard to design a better one.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @01:08AM (#28242831)
The vehicle thing is exactly what boggles me about this. Are you saying that the humanoid will be driving cars/forklifts/bullsozers? What exactly do you mean that its important that a robot interacting with a vehicle is humanoid?
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by Geee on Friday August 20, 2021 @10:44AM (#28246626)
Yes, in addition to everything else, it could drive vehicles.
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:37PM (#28248047)
Ok. I am wrong in my predictions a lot but this seems way more complicated than just having a computer interface on a bulldozer or whatever - especially given a lot of the cost to operate them is already one of liability
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by stickfigure on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:50AM (#28242715)
How much would you be willing to pay for a machine that folds laundry? At least as much as the machine that washes them, I imagine.

So far the only machines that have come even remotely close to being able to fold laundry (and they aren't very good) have humanoid arms.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @01:03AM (#28242794)
I could be wrong but I dont think it is reasonable that a humanoid would ever track in price with a washing machine. A washing machine only has a few moving parts while a humanoid is going to be more similar to a car in terms of complexity (though less on parts)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C76osXtpLeM

There are some machines that fold laundry. They don't seem that impressive now. But I imagine if they haven't already - laundry pick-up/delivery services will roll these out.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by greenknight on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:04AM (#28242445)
The thing is, that this can work alongside humans. say you have 5 people bricklaying and one of those is this humanoid robot. its not a dramatic change from whats currently possible. They are a drop-in replacement.

Think of it as a stepping stone. Like automated cars, Fully automated highways are a ways off where traffic lights are no longer needed, however automated cars that work alongside the rest of the roads are feasible in the near future.

Yes there are better tools, its just a stepping stone to allow change. to force change.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:26AM (#28242574)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s17IAj-XpU

There are bricklaying robots now

I don't think they are used en masse but I think if we do get to the point of some type of brick laying robots being used it will surely be something like this that doesn't have the physical constraints of two arms with limited mobility + nowhere to store bricks

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by mlyle on Friday August 20, 2021 @01:06AM (#28242817)
Something like putting dishes away --- lots of carrying things short distances, changing heights, changing angles, reaching around.

I don't think machines are very close, but bipedal locomotion with human arm like articulation and grasping softish fingers is a reasonable way to get there.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by askonomm on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:07AM (#28242464)
I wouldn't say that dishwasher is _better_ at washing dishes than a human. More quantity? Sure. More quality? Not based on my experience. Lots of stains just don't come out in a dishwasher.
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by handmodel on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:31AM (#28242605)
The quantity is the quality.

If you can take a restaurant that used to have to have 10 dishwashers and fire 9 of them because a machine works fast - you can keep one guy around to do the tricky stains. Sure is a lot cheaper than buying 5 humanoid dishwashers.

Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by kalleboo on Saturday August 21, 2021 @09:13AM (#28256753)
While there are a couple stains a dishwasher has trouble with (typically things that need a presoak, like dough or parmesan cheese), I find that the average quality of a dishwasher wash is way better than doing it by hand, where it's easy to miss a spot, etc. I've also broken several glasses/dishes washing by hand, whereas my dishwasher has never broken anything.
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by olau on Saturday August 21, 2021 @10:39AM (#28257372)
Not even quantity. I can do dishes faster than my dishwasher if you compare end-to-end times. Now, some industrial machines are much faster, but for home use, if I had a humanoid robot that could do dishes, why would I waste space on a dish washing machine?
Re:Tesla Announces a Humanoid Robot “Tesla Bot” by jazzyjackson on Friday August 20, 2021 @12:44AM (#28242687)
Dishwashers were invented because the maids kept chipping the China.