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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by giantrobot on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:13PM (#28238038)
> they could literally just tell Apple to issue a software update that streams all desired private data to Chinese government servers.

Uh...this already happened. [0][1]

[0] https://www.macrumors.com/2021/05/17/apple-security-compromi...

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351

Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by tshaddox on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:40PM (#28238368)
Not quite. Those are still ostensibly servers located in China but not directly controlled by the government (edit: apparently the hosting company is owned by Guizhou provincial government). But yes, this is precisely my point. Any slippery slope argument about Apple software on iPhones is equivalent to any conceivable slippery slope argument about Apple software on iPhones. If you're making one of these arguments, you're actually just arguing against Apple having the ability to issue software updates to iPhones (and by all means, make that argument!).
Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by giantrobot on Thursday August 19, 2021 @04:43PM (#28239147)
China's laws are such that there's no need for them to obtain a warrant for data housed on servers of Chinese companies. Not only do they not need a warrant but companies are required to facilitate their access. While the servers aren't controlled by the Chinese government, government law enforcement and intelligence agencies have essentially free access to that data.
Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by AussieWog93 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @06:12PM (#28240004)
> ostensibly servers located in China but not directly controlled by the government

"ostensibly" is the key word there. If the datacenter is physically located in China, then there's a CCP official on the board of the company that controls it.