ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash collisions

Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by orhmeh09 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:25PM (#28236688)

Could you provide specific evidence that China has and would do this? I’ve a hard time recalling any specific cases. Maybe nation-states do this kind of thing, but I’m only aware of the countless times the United States has done this. What’s the recent history?

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by tyingq on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:33PM (#28236780)

That China would use heavy handed tactics to coerce a US tech company?

Google for "Operation Aurora"

Also see: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh... for a very similar situation to the one described up-thread.

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by orhmeh09 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:40PM (#28237596)

Assuming you are American — where do you think your iCloud keys are stored? You do know Apple cooperates with US LE and intelligence? This is a nothing hamburger.

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by tyingq on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:57PM (#28237814)

I concede that there are overlapping issues there. But if you're saying there aren't places China goes with this sort of info that's different from the US, I don't think any debate would change your mind.

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by orhmeh09 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:01PM (#28237873)

So far I have no specific reason to think China goes places that are as deeply consequential and chilling than the US. What’s Assange up to these days?

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by voltaireodactyl on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:21PM (#28238125)

> So far I have no specific reason to think China goes places that are as deeply consequential and chilling than the US.

I would be intrigued to hear about the Uyghurs thoughts on the matter, as well as those of Assange.

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by willis936 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:29PM (#28236729)

Do you have access to this webpage?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by orhmeh09 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:39PM (#28237568)

What does this have to do with forcing corporations’ hands?

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by willis936 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:12PM (#28238021)

If you have access: scroll to the "Contemporary Issues" section. Further reading linked in that section:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_censorship_of_Chinese...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_Peo...

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by waz0wski on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:28PM (#28236723)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh...

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208351

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by dotcommand on Thursday August 19, 2021 @01:40PM (#28236870)

> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh...

Apple has to store data of chinese citizens in china? And Apple has to adhere to chinese laws in china? How insane.

It's crazy how deluded the "CCP crowd" are. Apparently, the "CCP crowd" thinks companies are allowed to do business in another country and not abide by their laws.

Are you going to go insane since the EU requires tech companies to store EU citizens data within the EU?

https://blogs.microsoft.com/eupolicy/2021/05/06/eu-data-boun...

You would think most countries would demand their citizens data be stored locally.

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Re:ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash co... by orhmeh09 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:41PM (#28237605)

Where do you think your iCloud keys are stored? Switzerland?

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