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Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by spullara on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:51PM (#28230149)
They are scanning files that are being uploaded. So, yes.
Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by noapologies on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:16PM (#28237301)
As I mentioned, it is (by definition) impossible for the cloud to have access to something that does not exist in the cloud - only the content that is explicitly uploaded/shared by the user can be scanned.

While local, on-device content access has no such guarantees - it's a question of policy rather than technical infeasibility.

And policies change.

> They are scanning files that are being uploaded. So, yes.

Even considering the situation as it is today, the cloud providers (as well as Apple) are scanning just the files that are being uploaded. So I'm still not sure how one is "total invasion of privacy" and the other "preserving privacy".

Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by spullara on Thursday August 19, 2021 @02:52PM (#28237753)
It has always been technically feasible for them to have software on the phone that scans everything on the phone. I don't see how this changes anything. Apple is trying to avoid scanning in the cloud so that the data can be E2EE and not subject to being stolen by someone that gets access to their servers somehow.
Re:Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims ... by noapologies on Thursday August 19, 2021 @03:33PM (#28238285)
> It has always been technically feasible for them to have software on the phone that scans everything on the phone.

No, the OS can limit access to local content. E.g. Mac has https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/control-access-to-f..., and ios has its own permissions system.

It also requires installing third-party software on the device. While if Apple's policy regarding local content changes in the future, there is no way to avoid the OS itself (other than jailbreaking I suppose).

> Apple is trying to avoid scanning in the cloud so that the data can be E2EE

Citation needed.