Elm at Rakuten - Hackdot

Re:Elm at Rakuten by dimitrios1 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @02:07PM (#28224950)

Once you detach from "I must use a library for every thing" land, you begin to realize you don't need the overwhelming majority of them. Which results in writing cleaner, simpler, more focused code, with less of a surface area for bugs. It's a whole mindset, tbh.

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by ModernMech on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @02:26PM (#28225240)

I appreciate libraries for:

- ubiquitous things, like data structures

- hard to get right things, like time

- implementations of specs, like Unicode

- hardware interfaces, like CUDA

For everything else, I'll take the above and roll my own solution.

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by alephu5 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @06:54PM (#28228162)

What about something tedious and ubiquitous, such as swapping between camel and snake case?

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by PhineasRex on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @07:40PM (#28228609)

This is exactly the case where you don't need a library. This is a single function (or two) and you can easily translate an existing code example into the language you're using in a few minutes and be done with it.

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by dimitrios1 on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @03:58PM (#28226330)

except for the last one, all of those should be part of the language you are using, and well thought out + researched. I guess I should have been more specific: third party dependencies.

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by scotttrinh on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @04:17PM (#28226528)

In this specific case (Elm vs. JavaScript) We're talking about JavaScript here, so:

> - ubiquitous things, like data structures

There are a few basic data structures in JS, but almost everything else is in user-land.

> - hard to get right things, like time

Date is a notoriously bad API in JavaScript.

- implementations of specs, like Unicode

We just get a String type in JavaScript which is UTF-16, so...

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Re:Elm at Rakuten by dimitrios1 on Thursday August 19, 2021 @09:57AM (#28233871)

> We're talking about JavaScript here, so:

Well, no, we aren't. We are talking about the Elm language, which compiles to JavaScript.

There are also other excellent languages that target JavaScript that have these things.

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