Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model
by shapefrog on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @01:27PM
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If you have content that has a matching hash value and is identical by all computational and human inspection to content that has been identified as CSAM from which the hash was generate then you have a problem.
Without getting into the metaphysics of what is an image, at that point, you basically have a large collection of child porn.
Your hypothetical oppressive regime has gone to a lot of trouble planting not illegal evidence on your device. It would be much more effective to just put actual child porn on your device, which you would need to have to conduct the attack in the first place.
Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model
by cyanite on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @04:16PM
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> You are aware that a lot of CSAM are close ups of say pussies for example, and human anatomy can look very similar?
I doubt images that look quite generic will make it into those hash sets, though.
Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model
by FabHK on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @05:35PM
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Nearly impossible to verify, though, by construction.
Re:Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model
by brokenmachine on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:47PM
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What is the factual basis for you to doubt that?
I'm not talking about images of rape here. I'm taking about images that you'd see on a regular porn site, of adults and their body parts.
You are also aware that CSAM covers anywhere from 0 to 17.99 years of age, and the legal obligation to report exists equally for the whole spectrum?
So let's say I download a close up pussy collection of 31 images of what I believe to be consenting 20 year olds, and what are consenting 20 year olds.
But they are actually planted by an attacker (let's say an oppressive regime who doesn't like me) and disturbed to match CSAM, that is, pussy close ups of 17 year olds. They are all just pussy pics. They will look the same.
Should I go to jail?
Do I have a non zero chance of going to jail? Yes.