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Re:Elm at Rakuten by tempest_ on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @11:25AM (#28222487)
Elm looks interesting but when it pops up around here and other places it is usually about how the main dev does not work and play well with others.

It is a bit off putting.

It is nice to see a different perspective.

Re:Elm at Rakuten by z5h on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @12:28PM (#28223565)
I think when something is built by several people, catering to outside interests, you end up with more churn, bloat, inconsistency, instability, etc. But your specific need has a better chance if being addressed. When something (like Elm) is built in a silo, you end up with less churn, bloat, instability, inconsistency. We forget how we got these nice things, and when we want something NOW we get cranky about the development model. So, as a developer with 20+ years of experience I can say that EVERYTHING (tools, languages, paradigms) is shitty in some ways, and I vastly prefer the ways that Elm and ecosystem are shitty.
Re:Elm at Rakuten by razze on Thursday August 19, 2021 @10:55AM (#28234619)
Having worked with "the main dev" I can't say I share this view. It has been very nice to be able to pick his brain and hear his thoughts. It can be exhausting, when you want to improve things now, but come up with a better long term plan. I guess that's a language designer thing.