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Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by betaby on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:10PM (#28215836)
Increase supply by building more and building up.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by falcolas on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:48PM (#28216110)
Based on my local market, this doesn’t work. Builders (more likely their financiers) hold on to houses until they sell at their target price.

They don’t rent them, they don’t lower the target price.

They’ll wait for months or years for the sale to come in order to maximize their returns, and they have enough liquidity to be able to wait.

Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by anigbrowl on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @08:36PM (#28216448)
Accurate. I used to have about 20 neighbors on the adjoining two lots, until the previous owner pushed them all out and then sold to some investors who wanted to convert the properties into condos. They gathered dust for 2 years then there's been 18 months of half-assed construction. Why rush? They're accruing value by the day.They didn't even get proper permits, but the fine is nominal.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by api on Wednesday August 18, 2021 @08:56AM (#28220401)
That can be fixed with idle real estate taxes. They would have to at least rent them.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by travoc on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:32PM (#28216001)
Won’t cure all. Building costs are soaring. Try building something new for less than $200/sf and you’ll see that the price of dirt is only part of the cost.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by Agathos on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @08:39PM (#28216472)
Throw out property taxes and implement land taxes. Stop assessing a tax penalty on building up.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by sfifs on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:52PM (#28216134)
that in the US i believe is mostly regulatory capture (guilds & licensing, unions, in some cases inappropriate regulations)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/1/14112776/ne...

Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by SilverRed on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @09:13PM (#28216684)
The dirt is pretty expensive. In many areas just a block of dirt will sell for $1-2M. While a nice apartment in the same area sells for $600,000 AUD.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by TuringNYC on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:19PM (#28215898)
This alone would solve almost all the wage "problems" in the Bay Area.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by sanxiyn on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:16PM (#28215879)
This doesn't help in the short term, because building takes time. Moving people is faster than constructing buildings.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by TuringNYC on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:20PM (#28215915)
You're right it does not help in the short term, but we've been speaking about the Bay Area problems (for example) for two decades and vigorously discussing it in the past decade -- building five years ago could have solved today's problem.

Similarly, we could speak about it for another decade, or we could build now and solve part of the problem in five years.

This also doesn't exclude other fixes that can happen orthogonally.

Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by Telemakhos on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:37PM (#28216034)
> building takes time

It does not have to take nine months (the national average) to build a house or a hundred houses. Housing can be and in times of necessity has been built rapidly and well. My favorite example is Hilton Village in Newport News, VA, built to house workers at Newport News Shipyard at the tail end of and after World War I. Five hundred units were constructed within two years, and they were built cheaply yet with a randomization to the sequence of models and detailing that kept the houses from feeling like a cookie-cutter development, avoiding pitfalls into which many suburbs today fall. A hundred years later the homes remain occupied and in fact prized today for their charm.

The barriers to affordable, desirable, swiftly built housing are artificial.

Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by prostoalex on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:55PM (#28216164)
Manufactured housing is probably the best bet for "built cheaply yet with a randomization", but most high-cost-of-living areas lack the available land. So then you need to build up, and that opens the Pandora's box of building code compliance, labor costs and material cost.

The city of Los Angeles presumably has access to average material costs and average labor costs, but the simple apartment complex they developed to house the homeless still ended up at $746,000 a unit https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/las-homeless-ho...

Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by BurningFrog on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:43PM (#28216078)
"Moving people" OTOH sounds violent.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by sanxiyn on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:50PM (#28216119)
It doesn't have to. For example, if people are moving from Bay Area to Texas, we should think about how to accelerate that.
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by bsenftner on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:50PM (#28216117)
Isn't Jimmy Carter and Habit For Humanity building new homes, each in under 30 days, around the southern east coast? https://allthatsinteresting.com/jimmy-carter-houses
Re:Will the rich world’s worker deficit last? by LegitShady on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:52PM (#28216139)
You're unlikely to find an instant solution to a problem decades in the making, period.