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Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by 41209 on Monday August 16, 2021 @09:21AM (#28197723)
15$ a month is a ton of money.

I'd prefer 50$ one time if possible. The other issue is I simply don't know y'all. You could be keylogging everything for all I know.

Even now I tend to use Chrome for secure browsing and Brave for AdBlocked browsing

Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by MattGaiser on Monday August 16, 2021 @09:49AM (#28198025)
If your income is based on productivity, especially micro optimizations in productivity (decidedly not the case for employees, but perhaps for contractors and freelancers), it might be worth it.
Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by sauravmitra on Monday August 16, 2021 @09:50AM (#28198042)
Fair point, can't convince you we're trustworthy just by telling you, but I can still say it anyways :P

We don't use keyloggers. We don't sell your data.

If we did, it would be a breach of our privacy policy and you could sue us, right? (Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p)

Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:01AM (#28198185)
> Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p

This is the strongest, most credible privacy guarantee, imo. Ask your lawyer to make you as ridiculously vulnerable as possible, perhaps with a small “good faith error” clause.

When you get big, you will turn evil. Bind the company now, and it will remain trustworthy for many more years.

Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by sauravmitra on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:12AM (#28198327)
Honestly, agree 100%. How do you communicate that to users though? The trust is hard to gain.
Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by wizzwizz4 on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:49AM (#28198784)
You don't need to communicate it to users. If they ask, and you can truthfully reply:

> We are contractually forbidden from doing this, and if we do, you're entitled to [insert compensation plan that would cripple the company, without a private equity-style (or other) takeover being able to game it for profit] – on top of any legal obligations.

then they'll probably sing your praises… if they believe you. So maybe publish a blog post or something about how you bullet-proofed the commitment (with lots of details)? Added bonus: I'd learn how you managed it, because it's too hard a legal problem for my amateur mind to solve.

Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by sauravmitra on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:54AM (#28198828)
if they believe us, indeed :p

Hey, if we figure out how to do that, I'll make a post outlining how to do it for others as well :)

Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by threatofrain on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:08AM (#28198280)
Is this how you defend your marketing claims on privacy? Sue us if we have a data breach?
Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by sauravmitra on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:32AM (#28198571)
Haha, not how I meant to phrase it at least. I was merely pointing out that I can't convince you when I say that "we handle your data safely", so was proposing another reasoning for why we have to make sure any and all data is handled properly.
Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by MahyadGhassemi on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:23AM (#28198461)
Well it is not a marketing claim, everything is stored locally on your device for now, and later would be using Apple’s cloud system for cross device syncing. A data breach is very different from us misusing your data or monetizing it to be clear
Re:Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designe... by JediPig on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:43AM (#28198704)
right now, its not worth $15 a month, or even $9. I see this as a cash grab from a non supported browsers that is a browser theme.