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Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by bitwize on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:57PM (#28182677)
If you think that problematic language doesn't matter, consider this story. I promise there are no "SJWs" in it, rather just the opposite:

When the Linux OOM killer decides to eliminate memory hog processes, it prints to the kernel logs a message of the form "Kill process [...] or sacrifice child".

Currently there are panic memes spread by idiots on Facebook about their crashed smart TVs satanically demanding the sacrifice of their children (like the ATM in American Psycho demanding a dead cat).

The language that you use to describe things in computing matters because you don't know who might be reading, how they may interpret it, or how important that person is to the future health of your project. The religious right is still tremendously powerful in the USA, open source still smells like communism to them, and open source that demands the blood sacrifice of their children may just mobilize them to attempt the complete destruction or discrediting of Linux itself and any manufacturer that uses it.

The "parent", "child", and "kill" terminology in terms of Unix processes has been around since forever ago. And they still cause alarm! There's a strong case to be made here for changing the terminology. Think, then, how much more alarming more loaded terms like "master" and "slave" must be. That is the thing that angered Spek to the point of using the N-slur -- which is itself intolerable in a professional context.

We all must work together in order to make our software more accessible to all. That means that hackers working closely with the DEI people -- and listening to their concerns -- needs to be table stakes for any open source project if you want broad adoption.

Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by calvinmorrison on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:06PM (#28182737)
> We all must work together in order to make our software more accessible to all.

No, I don't need to spend time and money rewriting or changing my code because some crappy TV company decided to freely use linux or other open source software and they didn't like the terms used in it.

Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by still_grokking on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:29PM (#28182890)
> Currently there are panic memes spread by idiots

How about educating, or else just ignoring, idiots? Seems simpler.

The problem with idiots is that they're idiots. Besides trying to educate them you can't do anything about it. If it's not this thing they don't understand it will be some other thing they don't understand or misunderstand. That's the nature of idiots.

We shouldn't try to create an "idiot-prove" world, as this world would be just idiotic in the end.

Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by croes on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:30PM (#28182899)
Wait a minute. If some idiots think their TV is demanding their child as sacrifice because of a error message we should fix the idiots, because sooner or later someone will use their intellectual deficit to cause havoc.
Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by CRConrad on Sunday August 15, 2021 @05:57PM (#28192928)
> sooner or later someone will use their intellectual deficit to cause havoc.

Sooner. Like, at least five years ago.

Re:The Perl Foundation is fragmenting over Code of Conduct e... by croes on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:34PM (#28182927)
BTW we already can see what accessibility brought us. People with up to no knowledge in science or technology but with large tange flood the internet with stupid conspiracy theories. We have people who actual think the earth is flat and vaccines can turn you into an ape.

We need something more like a child lock.