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Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by whatsapps2020 on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:32PM (#28182441)
You are saying that comfortable communication with friends is rationally less important than long-term ideological battle that you don’t really influence?
Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by ipaddr on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:59PM (#28183097)
If you don't mind sharing your private conversations then sure it starts looking rational.

It is not just an ideological battle when your information is used directly against you personally. Companies pay for ads targeted to you by mining your personal content.

If you are not on facebook or rarely use it they have no opportunity to influence you.

Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by tomjakubowski on Saturday August 14, 2021 @05:30PM (#28184103)
You can use Facebook while not having any conversations on it you'd wish to stay private. I think most of my friends still on Facebook use it that way.
Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by selfhoster11 on Saturday August 14, 2021 @08:19PM (#28185117)
Facebook is a contact point, first and foremost. Nothing prevents you from greeting a friend and requesting that the conversation continues on a more private channel.
Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by Retric on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:37PM (#28182484)
Yes. There are many options outside of Facebook, but compromising your morals sticks with you.
Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by still_grokking on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:49PM (#28182603)
You don't need FB to comfortable communication with friends.

So there is no reason to use it.

If you know what FB is about, and still use it nonetheless (actually for no reason), that's highly irrational.

"I want to communicate with my friends" is just a very lame excuse for feeding the machine.

Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by asteroidbelt on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:13PM (#28183201)
> You don't need FB to comfortable communication with friends.

You don't need planes to meet your distant relatives, but flying is often much more convenient than other modes of transportation.

> So there is no reason to use it.

Convenience is my reason. If you don't have reasons for yourself, that's fine, don't use it, but don't say for everyone.

> feeding the machine

This is a bit dramatic.

Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by fsflover on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:25PM (#28183281)
>You don't need planes to meet your distant relativesx

This is not a good parallel. You can use any modern instant messenger like Telegram to talk to your friends as comfortably (or more).

Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by asteroidbelt on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:29PM (#28183324)
It is a good parallel. Obviously if your relatives live on another continent, flying is the optimal, but for example you can ride a bus from SF to LA instead of flying.
Re:Facebook is obstructing our work on disinformation by fsflover on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:31PM (#28183337)
Bus takes much longer, whereas other messengers are practically as convenient as Facebook.