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Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by fsckboy on Saturday August 14, 2021 @12:19PM (#28181833)
> the term antifascist certainly didn't age well

antifa?

the political left has never stopped using the term fascist as a pejorative, it's thrown around quite liberally even today

Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by f6v on Saturday August 14, 2021 @12:56PM (#28182150)
Sometimes I get lost in public discussions these days. Everyone is “fascist”, “far-right”, and “leftist” at the same time.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by aerosmile on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:14PM (#28182284)
Far-left and far-right ideologies have more in common than many people realize (including the people within those factions). They are both based on the principle on low tolerance, and as such they are well-aligned on the idea of strict enforcement of their ideologies.

There are some hilarious misconceptions that members of those factions have about their own ideologies. Far-left is against the police brutality, but there is a 100 year history of perfect correlation between leftist regimes and policy brutality.

Far-right is against government interventions in all economic matters, but that also has never materialized anywhere else.

The bottom line is that anything that's far-something requires suppression of the society's natural tendency to return to the center.

Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by cronix on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:49PM (#28183474)
Far-left and far-right intersect at totalitarianism.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by TheOtherHobbes on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:02PM (#28183122)
The Wilson and Attlee governments in the UK would be very surprised to hear there's a "100 year history of perfect correlation".

They were certainly leftist. Many would consider them far leftist today. (Of course they weren't, but that doesn't mean the label wouldn't be applied.)

Neither was legendary for police brutality. That came later, with Thatcher's response to the Miner's Strike and the poll tax riots - among others.

Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by aerosmile on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:48PM (#28183470)
My bad, I meant to say far-left instead of leftist. Hopefully that sentiment is evident throughout the rest of my comment.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by blix on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:38PM (#28183397)
I have a hard time considering a government that ruled over and fought bitterly to protect a global capitalist empire as truly 'leftist,' unlike the UK's geopolitical enemies of the time.

It is also likely that subjects of certain British colonies would have a substantially different opinion on police violence.

Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by user-the-name on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:14PM (#28182286)
That sounds entirely like a problem with you not making any effort to understand what is discussed rather than anyone else's problem.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by f6v on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:42PM (#28182539)
Or maybe it’s people who didn’t do well in school don’t know what a fascist regime looks like.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by seanmcdirmid on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:53PM (#28182646)
Where is the line at to be drawn between nationalism and fascist ultra nationalism? The rise in nationalism in many countries is one thing, but as that nationalism becomes stronger it is too easy to see it as drifting into fascist territory.
Re:Berlin, a divided city. The events of 60 years ago by aerosmile on Saturday August 14, 2021 @12:57PM (#28182156)
I said specifically "the Russians' usage of the term..."