Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by Blueskytech on Saturday August 14, 2021 @01:58AM
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It looks like the study did adjust the dosage level to a value recommended by advocates of Ivermectin like the FLCCC, .04mg per kilogram. However Ivermectin proponents have been vocal that many of the negative studies only administer Ivermectin well past initial onset of covid symptoms. I would like to find the data on how long after initial onset of symptoms, or a covid positive test, Ivermectin was given. I do not see any links to the current study in question all I see from the MSM links are PowerPoint slides and a symposium presentation. The study groups website only has links to a previous off label treatment study that included other potential therapeutics but not Ivermectin. If anyone knows where you can read the preprint I would love to take a look.
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Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by Blueskytech on Saturday August 14, 2021 @02:11AM
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Page 10 of the slides had the study inclusion information I was looking for, participants of the study were only included if they had "acute" onset of covid symptoms within 7 days. Proponents of Ivermectin will push back on this study since advocates have been clear that it is only an effective treatment if used as preventative prophylactic or within the first few days of symptomatic response to infection.
https://dcricollab.dcri.duke.edu/sites/NIHKR/KR/GR-Slides-08...
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by amanaplanacanal on Saturday August 14, 2021 @08:19AM
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I’m trying to imagine how this would work in the real world. Are we supposed to have the entire population taking it daily on the off chance they might get Covid, or are we supposed to start taking it every time we come down with a sniffle?
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by fighterpilot on Saturday August 14, 2021 @10:22AM
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Bret Weinstein, one of the most high profile advocates, thinks people should be taking it every day.
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by estaseuropano on Saturday August 14, 2021 @04:42PM
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That does sound like he has stock options. Not even malaria medication is taken daily in the most affected regions, except for a few western tourists.
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by amanaplanacanal on Saturday August 14, 2021 @03:28PM
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But... If the vaccine hasa lower risk of side effects than this does, which it appears to, and only takes two doses, instead of having to take it daily forever, why wouldn't we just get the vaccine instead? I suppose the use case is countries that are too poor to afford the vaccine?
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by rsynnott on Saturday August 14, 2021 @05:04PM
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AZ costs about $2 per dose. There's no way that giving ivermectin indefinitely is cheaper than that.
Re:Major study of Ivermectin finds 'no effect whatsoever'
by fighterpilot on Saturday August 14, 2021 @11:41PM
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He thinks it has a higher risk of long term side effects. It's nearing anti-vax territory although he does admit the efficacy of vaccines and doesn't overplay the current knowledge on side effects. It's the boogeyman of possible future side effects associated with spike proteins that he's playing into. He thinks continued use of ivermectin is safer than vax plus boosters. And he thinks they're of similar efficacy so he's choosing ivermectin.