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Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by 1024core on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:57PM (#28163957)
Reddit is on its way down. It's been overrun by power-tripping mods, and there's no way to appeal a perma-ban!

I've been banned from /r/india for just commenting on another sub (/r/chodi, which was recommended by the app itself!); banned from /r/worldnews for disagreeing with the herd.

The moment a decent, democratic discussion forum comes along, I'll jump ship to it.

Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by ramraj07 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:31PM (#28164240)
Chodi is like the Indian version of TheDonald so no wonder. Not that /r/India is neutral either. Stop going to politics subs and you’ll be fine?
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by toomim on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:10PM (#28164499)
The same thing happens on technology subs. I was banned on /r/bitcoin for posting on /r/btc.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by mike_d on Friday August 13, 2021 @12:29AM (#28165455)
It isn't immediately obvious, but r/btc is full of trolls and shills for a bitcoin hard fork and other scam coins. I just checked it out and 2 of the 3 top posts were conspiracy videos about John McAfee.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by itsdsmurrell on Friday August 13, 2021 @02:30AM (#28166095)
This couldn't be further from the truth. You sound like a BTC maximalist.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by zapdrive on Friday August 13, 2021 @08:05AM (#28167886)
Nice try, Gregory (Maxwell).
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by SilverRed on Friday August 13, 2021 @01:47AM (#28165840)
Bitcoin and btc are politics subs though.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by TeeMassive on Thursday August 12, 2021 @11:12PM (#28164974)
"Stop using the website in the way it was intended; you must learn the bias of each subs or get banned. And by the way criticizing the bias of mods will also get you banned"
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by ramraj07 on Friday August 13, 2021 @04:00AM (#28166591)
Been on that website for a decade, and being political was not its intention. It’s been established time and again that Reddit is not full free speech, they will ban (what they consider to be) harmful subreddits. That’s the expected outcome in Reddit. The only reason Chodi isn’t banned is because the admins probably don’t give a crap about Indian sub (just 60k members) and half the stuff written there is in broken illiterate hinglish anyway so they probably can’t even police that.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by 1024core on Friday August 13, 2021 @11:51AM (#28170510)
But the fucking sub was recommended to me on the app! I clicked, went in there, posted a comment or two to enlighten people, and bam! Banned from /r/india! W.T.F.!!
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by pcurve on Friday August 13, 2021 @01:47AM (#28165841)
ArtisanVideos used to be my favorite until the mod unfairly banned me.

It took me a while just to figure out that I was banned. When I inquired, it was because because I posted videos that are spammy advertising, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Based on the response, it was clear that I was not dealing with someone in normal state so I just wrote it off as lost cause and stopped visiting.

I had already thought the sub was on decline due to aggressive and unnecessary policing, because despite its huge membership, the content has become very stagnant.

It's a shame because I've been on reddit for 10 years and I joined it the sub since its inception.

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Looking at the sub now, it's clear that there was change in mod / ownership. https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/oo7oxm/annou...

Quite unusual.

Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by BingoAhoy on Friday August 13, 2021 @11:13AM (#28169902)
So here's a conundrum. People like free discourse, but they also like quality content. Having a quality content safe haven usually involves some tyrannical or mob rule filtering mechanism in the form of weird idiosyncratic rules and policing + banning of offbeat posters. This same filtering mechanism is anti-free discourse. Is there a successful implementation that maximizes free discourse and quality content simultaneously(IE preventing spam, shallow comments, & offtopic stuff which inundate a forum turning it into a maze to find the good stuff) without the bad modding?

Many forums once they reach critical mass even if they aren't heavy handed with policing still have an unsavory softhanded stiff-arming mechanism that's rife with bad [mod/mob] judgement, IE push everything not condoned by the mods or mobs into the place where few read. I'm sorry what I'm trying to describe is hard to put a finger on, but after being on reddit for 10 or more years yah notice some strange consistent peculiarities that are hard to put in words.

Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by keewee7 on Friday August 13, 2021 @04:31AM (#28166752)
I'm a Danish guy who has never posted anything on r/India but I was banned from both r/worldnews and r/India for calling out the racism against Indians on r/worldnews.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by uDontKnowMe on Thursday August 12, 2021 @09:23PM (#28164186)
What do you mean by democratic? Are you thinking of some kind of election system to replace mods, and if so have you seen such a mechanism work anywhere else on forums?
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by 1024core on Friday August 13, 2021 @12:00PM (#28170646)
Give people votes proportional to the karma in that sub.

Also, make it hard to perma-ban someone with over 100K karma points, especially in regional subs (like /r/india, etc.); you can change your interests, but you can't really change where you are from. If nothing else, force the mods to actually justify bans; and one subjective offense should not be enough to ban someone.

Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by josephcsible on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:13PM (#28164524)
Stack Exchange isn't quite a forum, but doesn't its system fit that description and work well?
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by SavantIdiot on Thursday August 12, 2021 @11:20PM (#28165016)
StackOverflow is HEAVILY moderated. And still has lots of garbage. I have questions constantly taken down for being too vague, offtopic, not the right stackexchange, or not technical enough. I've even responded to takdowns with links to questions with hundreds of points that were almost the same, and ... nope. At least mark it redundant.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by echelon on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:57PM (#28164890)
Slashdot also had a great moderation system. Way ahead of its time.

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Edit: I was going to respond to [1], but I'm rate limited. Below is my comment:

> Anonymity really hurts profits.

That's what killed YikYak and continues to beleaguer anonymous message board monetization (well, maybe it's the content).

Reddit at least has an interest graph going for it. If they can figure out how to boost subreddit discovery and encourage users pick the things they'll spend money on, then they'll be golden.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157448

Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by shp0ngle on Friday August 13, 2021 @12:33AM (#28165480)
Just create a new account, problem solved.
Re:Reddit raises $410M in new funding by 1024core on Friday August 13, 2021 @11:53AM (#28170547)
But I can't create new views to align with the imbeciles posing as mods!