> against a very dangerous disease

Ebola or smallpox are very dangerous disease. COVID has much lower negative impact on lives/health, it is more like flu or risk of stroke, very dangerous only for specific subpopulations, mostly old / unhealthy people with preexisting conditions.

Ebola spreads poorly and never achieved anything larger than a regional outbreak (but yes, it's very dangerous). Smallpox is extinct.

Covid is a pandemic, literally killing millions of people. You don't think that's relevant to a discussion about vaccination policy?

BTW: that "smallpox" idea you threw out? Give you two guesses as to how it was eradicated.

You said it is very dangerous, but I say it is not in that category. It is very dangerous to specific subpopulations, that's it.

It is "very dangerous" in that it's killing millions of people and will probably kill millions more if we don't get people to take their vaccines. Better?

Again, imagine if people successfully deployed your logic against the smallpox vaccine. We'd still be getting sick with smallpox.

Yes that's slightly better. However millions may still die even with vaccinations, because most of the world does not have access to them and they don't have adequate health care. Also, with time as mutations occur, vaccines will get less efficient.

You got confused with the smallpox. I mentioned smallpox as an example of what COVID isn't. Not every disease warrants mass vaccination, and this depends also on efficacy of the vaccine.

COVID may warrant it for specific subpopulations. But we don't have good enough vaccines yet to eradicate COVID. "Getting rid of COVID via vaccines", "vaccines is the only way" is just fantasy/propaganda tactic to increase vaccinations.

“Unhealthy people” is a very large group. For example, obesity is considered an unhealthy state. 42.5% of the US population is obese.

If obesity is a contributing problem, I wonder if there could be a non-vaccine solution to obesity? Hmm, maybe it has something to do with the quantity and type of calories consumed.

People are free to eat themselves into metabolic destruction just as people are free to partake or not partake in the emergency use authorization vaccine experiments.

People are free to partake or not partake… no one is forcing people to get vaccinated, there is always an alternative. A restaurant is requiring patrons to be vaccinated? Don’t go there if you are not. Your job is requiring prove of vaccination? Quit the job.

Yes technically you are correct, but COVID does not care about technical definition of obesity. Obese is a very general term, borderline obese/overweight person with otherwise healthy body has much better chances than someone with morbid obesity or diabetes or heart/vascular condition.

Sure, I agree that obesity is not a great indicator. I just used it to illustrate that an unhealthy population can be very large. Another example: 6.5% of Americans are morbidly obese, which I would guess can have an effect on the severity of Covid symptoms. That’s already 20 million people. And that’s just one factor. How many people have heart problems, lung problems, etc?

Yes, it's still a big part of the population. I think getting vaccinated makes a lot of sense in that group, but of course even there, it has to be informed personal decision.

The long lasting side effects of Covid are just as if not more underresearched than the vaccines.

They are not underresearched, they are unknown because the long term has to pass first and then it can be researched.

Smoking cigarettes is harmless.... nobody gets sick after smoking for a year

thalidomide is harmless... "On October 1, 1957, the company launched thalidomide and began marketing it under the trade name Contergan. It was proclaimed a "wonder drug" for insomnia, coughs, colds and headaches... In late 1959, it was noticed that peripheral neuritis developed in patients who took the drug over a period of time, and it was only after this point that thalidomide ceased to be provided over the counter. ...Despite the side effects, thalidomide was sold in pharmacies in Canada until 1962." [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide]

the industry doesn't turn on a dime due to adverse effects when there is money to be made