There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get a lot worse

Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by jrochkind1 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @01:34PM (#28159119)

You're suggesting that Apple's motivation was "precisely" to enable general widespread government surveillance? Why would Apple have an interest in doing that? What evidence do you have that this is their motivation, how do you know what motivates them?

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by lijogdfljk on Thursday August 12, 2021 @01:37PM (#28159173)

I would suspect because governments repeatedly want this surveillance and as the GP comment correctly pointed out, this gives governments what they want while Apple sits on the side and acts innocent.

Given pressure from governments for this type of surveillance is, i think, well agreed upon - Apple giving in while avoiding direct responsibility seems quite the incentive in my view.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by _trampeltier on Thursday August 12, 2021 @02:04PM (#28159458)

I also wonder about it. Maybe the agencys had something in there hands to make pressure to the apple people who decided this. Maybe optimised taxes, maybe lovers, we will never know.

For sure there had to be a lot of pressure. I don't believe Apple did just because it was a beautiful morning once.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by meroes on Thursday August 12, 2021 @03:06PM (#28160181)

Makes me think further...are there any documented cases of a three letter agency being on the board of any company?

I'd guess they tried it once or twice, and it was too slow so they went for more forceful means.

This just reasoning from what they've already done in the past.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by Aunche on Thursday August 12, 2021 @02:30PM (#28159763)

An SRE friend told me that they're pretty confident that a three letter organization have attempted a serious breach at a data center. There's a good chance that Apple has negotiated a deal so they'll stop attempting hacks in the future.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by jdlshore on Thursday August 12, 2021 @02:45PM (#28159937)

“A SRE friend” is “pretty confident?”

That’s a very bold claim to make on hearsay. Does your friend work at Apple? Are they just speculating, or do they have actual evidence? Why do you believe them?

C’mon, people, I know this is a knee-jerk issue, but exercise some basic critical thinking skills.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by Aunche on Thursday August 12, 2021 @03:25PM (#28160397)

Basic critical thinking skills would tell you that Apple would spend millions of dollars developing something that isn't making them any more money. The most obvious explanation is that the government is pressuring them to somehow.

As far as the attack goes, I have a few more details, but I'd rather no reveal them since I could be violating confidentiality somehow. I understand why you'd be skeptical.

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by meroes on Thursday August 12, 2021 @02:59PM (#28160094)

So the gov't it got exactly what it wanted and instead of getting Congress to actually pass a law, they just effected a much simpler solution by force.

Winning!

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Re:There’s a crack in the iPhone foundation and it could get... by poisonborz on Thursday August 12, 2021 @01:54PM (#28159349)

> Why would Apple have an interest in doing that?

To follow the law? You can already read a bagful of stories where it caved in on law enforcement pressure. It already follows much invasive legal systems in China or India like any other major tech company. The measures there are being presented as "anti-terrorism", maybe a less marketable term in the US currently.

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