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Re:Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance a... by xvector on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:28AM (#28154902)
You can't seriously be recommending a Librem 5 for mom and grandpa? That's absurd. The thing barely functions.

As the parent commenter noted, Apple was really one of the only reasonable recommendations from privacy-oriented nerdy guys to their friends and family, if they didn't want to go the out-of-touch-with-reality route by recommending the phones you listed.

Re:Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance a... by alexvoda on Thursday August 12, 2021 @08:22AM (#28155315)
As I mentioned elsewhere in this discussion, when talking about privacy and security you need to talk about threat models. Privacy-oriented is not a single direction. Those recommending iPhones to parrents have a different threat model than those choosing FLOSS devices.