Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time'
by AndrewDucker on Thursday August 12, 2021 @04:12AM
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Per kWh gas heating is about ⅓ the cost of electric, unless you already have a heat pump. And fitting a ground source heat pump costs about £15k, so most people don't have the spare cash to switch over. We need government subsidies to make it happen generally.
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Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time'
by makomk on Thursday August 12, 2021 @04:33AM
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Also, the running costs of a heat pump are reasonably comparable to gas heating, so you don't even really save money by doing this. (Plus they're more complex and expensive to replace when they break, the installation process is really disruptive and not practical for everyone, etc.) On top of that, a lot of the electricity to run them is going to come from burning gas anyway in most countries. They mostly seem to have caught on in places where gas wasn't plumbed out to so many homes, there are good reserves of dispatchable renewable sources like hydropower, or both.
Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time'
by adrianN on Thursday August 12, 2021 @04:40AM
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A combined cycle gas plant has an efficiency of 50-60%, pipe that electricity into a heat pump with a COP of around 3 and you're well ahead of burning the gas directly for heat.
Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time'
by AndrewDucker on Thursday August 12, 2021 @04:54AM
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Only if you've fitted each house with a heat pump. Which is expensive.
Re:Climate change: Curbing methane emissions will 'buy us time'
by alkonaut on Thursday August 12, 2021 @05:56AM
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Even I have trouble motivating the investment in a ground source pump in a really cold climate in Sweden. My regular air-water pump is around £4-7k and has a thermal efficiency (COP) of over 4 (so 1kw electricity is more than 4kw heat) and that’s with no digging or expensive installation.
I get that there is no way Central Europe will switch to ground source, but regular heat pumps should be cheap enough to subsidize.