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Re:Default disappearing messages by swiley on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @08:24AM (#28141141)
>the subtext here is that Signal thinks people's phones are going to be increasingly compromised

Phones are compromised by default. E2EE doesn't matter if someone else owns both ends.

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Re:Default disappearing messages by matttrotter on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @08:38AM (#28141267)
Yeah I see what you’re saying, but there will always be the tech equivalent of the back room whisper - a private and authentic conversation. The platform may change, but it will exist because there’s always a need for it. Now, Signal fills that need. In the future… tor on open source hardware? Something else?
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Re:Default disappearing messages by wolverine876 on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @07:37PM (#28149597)
> Phones are compromised by default

The issue is a matter of degree. Everything and everyone are compromised to some degree; perfection is not the standard.

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Re:Default disappearing messages by swiley on Thursday August 12, 2021 @07:52AM (#28155067)
How about I rephrase it then: The popular mobile OS vendors as a matter of policy exfiltrate data from the phone to third parties, either for free or for pay. Phones are compromised by default to a very high degree.
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Re:Default disappearing messages by wolverine876 on Thursday August 12, 2021 @10:22AM (#28156722)
Yes, I strongly agree.
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