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Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by mensetmanusman on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @12:25PM (#28130792)
This will be challenging since the epidemic of obesity (which kills far more than covid) now effects > 50% of society and leads to disability at younger and younger ages.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by nradov on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @12:38PM (#28130974)
Obesity is a critical risk factor for COVID-19. And obesity also increases the risk of diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, and hypovitaminosis D which are all co-morbid conditions that further increase COVID-19 risk.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by foolinaround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:05PM (#28131341)
if obesity was tackled with the same intensity as covid, we would have seen far better outcomes...

but too many financial hurdles in its way...

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by croes on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:25PM (#28131637)
But I don't get a heart attack if you're obese.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by sjwalter on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:35PM (#28131763)
But if you're under 60 and yourself fit and healthy, you'd probably not even notice if you caught covid and recovered. Everyone getting fitter is a huge collective win. Even outside the context of a pandemic--fat people have a hugely disproportional impact on national healthcare spend. All of our insurance would get cheaper and cheaper if we reduced the national BMI.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by croes on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:25PM (#28132373)
You still can get damages in heart, kidney and lungs from corona, even if you are asymptomatic and didn't feel anything. The first cases were reported from italian divers you can't work in their job anymore because of lung damages.

And the costs wouldn't really get lower, you just change the illness. If you are healthier, you live longer and your final illness most probably will be cancer. Expensive long te treatment. Obese people die faster and cheaper.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by da_big_ghey on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:43PM (#28132582)
Organ damage is definitionally symptom for a disease.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by mensetmanusman on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:46PM (#28131889)
And, if you do get a heart attack, which happened to my very fit professor when he died right before finals, you might not have the specialists available immediately for care because they are crunched for time dealing with a health crisis (obesity has made COVID much worse for example).
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by da_big_ghey on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:43PM (#28132576)
Maybe I am now paying for your health care heart attack? Costing me more, so I have some interest in weight of other people now. Maybe I am getting more financial trouble, which cause stress, which linked to heart disease: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/stress-...
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by croes on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @09:56AM (#28142012)
I think cancer treatment is more expensive. Heart attacks have a pretty death rate.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by foolinaround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:49PM (#28135105)
But you get a fatter bill because of the obese population due to the way health care and insurance is structured.

this means, in the current world, you get to fat-shame the obese people, have color coded id cards based on their BMI, have them off flights etc till they prove that they ran on their treadmill today...

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by munk-a on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:04PM (#28132119)
The financial hurdles do exist - but it is mostly the political lobbying that prevents a real attack on obesity in the US. Sugar is big business and, by extension, obesity greases a lot of people's palms.

The US could take a serious look at addressing massive over consumption - but the last serious take on that was the sugary drink ban in NYC and that turned into a "you'll pry my big gulp from my cold dead hands" affair pretty quickly. The US is in too deep celebrating the exploitation of the health of their populace to turn things around - but other countries might have a chance.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by vkou on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:13PM (#28131468)
If obesity could be prevented with a $20 shot twice a year, I don't think it would be much of a public health problem.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by jdavis703 on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:31PM (#28131722)
Is this sarcasm? The US has free vaccine shots and free masks (most chain stores hand them out for free), and people still won’t use them.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by thepangolino on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:12PM (#28133729)
Covid is hardly a benchmark for lethality. Since the official start of the COVID-19 pandemic, more people have died of diarrhoea. (comparing official numbers for both)
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @04:32PM (#28134040)
Diarrhea isn't comparable to COVID, as it is a symptom of numerous other causes (both infectious agents and otherwise) not a single infectious agent.