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Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by silasdavis on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @11:59AM (#28130451)
I know many people in their sixties who choose and want to work, including my parents. They are lucky in being able to choose to work at a reduced level and not out of absolute necessity so that changes the implications, but they do not want to retire completely.

It's not clear that retirement is particularly healthy, longevity wise.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by BobbyJo on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @12:15PM (#28130668)
My grandpa is 89 and refuses not to work. He thinks he'll fall apart once he does.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by Dave_TRS on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @12:37PM (#28130966)
My grandpa is 94 and still enjoys working. Drives to Home Depot every day to pick up supplies for our family company, and other errands around the city. His view is that he enjoys it and helps him stay active.
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by BossingAround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:34PM (#28132472)
> It's not clear that retirement is particularly healthy, longevity wise.

You're essentially saying that not working may not be healthy. That's one of the strangest things I've read today.

You may not view it as "not particularly healthy" because of the frame of reference, not because of "a fact" that not working is unhealthy.

If people "retired" at the age of 25, could you reasonably argue that we'd have an unhealthy population?

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by Daishiman on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:13PM (#28132947)
> You're essentially saying that not working may not be healthy. That's one of the strangest things I've read today.

But it is true. An internal study at a megacorp I worked at showed that people who didn't retire ended up living longer.

It makes a ton of sense. Intellectual work keeps your mind stimulated and your body moving. Inaction ends up killing old people.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by krapp on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @03:21PM (#28133021)
If anything that proves inactivity is unhealthy, not a life without work.

Not all activity has to be done in the service of providing value to a corporation. You can retire and take up fishing or rock climbing, play chess, write a book.

This idea that we've been conditioned to, that the only valid life is the life we trade for money, is insidious.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by BossingAround on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @02:43AM (#28138832)
> Intellectual work keeps your mind stimulated and your body moving. Inaction ends up killing old people.

Nobody argues with this. But thinking that paid work is the only source of mind stimulation and body movement is just silly.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by foolinaround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:08PM (#28131384)
could it be explained as a generational gap?

that generation tied a lot of value to the ability to work.

the current generation looks for all possibilities to not work.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by munk-a on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @01:56PM (#28132017)
If the current generation is looking for all possibilities to not work they're sure doing a crap job at it - the number of people working multiple jobs has shot up... Or did you mean that stereotypical millennials are lazy and thus all young people are lazy?
Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by foolinaround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:54PM (#28135172)
the people working multiple jobs is due to how the jobs have gotten 'securitized' - people have become specialists in low skill jobs, leading to no growth at all.

A person who is a Uber driver and a dog sitter is unable to display much skill addition after years on these jobs.

i can only quote anecdotal data about the attitude to work among generations. On the other hand, because of the changing nature of the work, it is completely understandable.

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by BossingAround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @02:36PM (#28132493)
> the current generation looks for all possibilities to not work.

You're getting downvoted for this statement, which is utterly ridiculous.

From what I see around me, the current generations work as much, if not way more, than previous generations (such as boomers).

Re:BioNTech alone could lift German economy by 0.5% this year by foolinaround on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @05:50PM (#28135127)
i differentiated between between people working and people wanting to work.

it is also true that if a generation is chronically overworked, they will not be interested at all in working till their death.