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Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by whimsicalism on Monday August 09, 2021 @06:39AM (#28114952)
> If we're not all in this together, what's the point?

The point is that while we are squabbling over the most fair division of the burden, we are screwing future generations.

Qatar has 0.03% of the worlds population. We can't let climate renegade states preclude us from taking action, and we can't sit around until we have a world government.

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by oliwarner on Monday August 09, 2021 @08:19AM (#28115839)
Yes, they're a bad absolute example but there are others in that list that are still many times more destructive, yet are physically and culturally close to the UK. If we're ever going to sell the idea of investing in the future by sacrificing what we do, we need our neighbours to, too.

Another reply talks about sanctions and I think I broadly agree that tariffs and levies could be applied but I'm not sure how this amounts to much more than "normal" protectionism. It makes everything more expensive locally, and local sacrifice increases.

To ignore public buy-in will only breed another generation of malcontents. I don't want an "ecological Brexit" where half the populations gets swayed into giving up... Sorry. "Taking back control" [from an unelected environment].

Re:Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity' by mempko on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @08:18AM (#28127881)
Yes, but what if the biggest empire in the world, the USA, is the renegade state?