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Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by joecool1029 on Sunday August 08, 2021 @08:13PM (#28111428)
For anyone else like me that wasn't sure what ATA stood for, this is not the ATA hardware attachment interface. ATA here is Allen Telescope Array: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Telescope_Array
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by ncmncm on Sunday August 08, 2021 @10:05PM (#28112009)
Today I learned a new non-SI unit, the Jansky, abbreviated Jy, a measure of energy flux "equivalent to 10^−26 watts per square metre per hertz".

Can somebody explain why it is interesting to get a much-lower resolution image than the VLA provided? Is it sampling some property the VLA image does not? (E.g., 8+ GHz samples higher-energy processes.) Or is this an exercise in technique (one person doing the work of an institute?), or in extracting usable data from antennas not built for the purpose? Background and motivation would be helpful.

[Edit:] The previous paper is helpful: "Here we show a complete description of the interferometric pipeline, covering from the IQ output of the SDRs to the CLEAN images. Therefore, this experiment is a valuable resource for anyone interested in learning about interferometry in radio astronomy."

Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by CamperBob2 on Sunday August 08, 2021 @11:29PM (#28112485)
Aside from the educational value, they're showing they can get 10% of the VLA's image quality with 0.0001% of the budget. That's not an inconsiderable achievement.
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by ncmncm on Monday August 09, 2021 @12:00PM (#28118523)
I guess that is covered under "an exercise in technique (one person doing the work of an institute?)". Thanks.
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by rahen on Monday August 09, 2021 @03:27AM (#28113580)
> Can somebody explain why it is interesting to get a much-lower resolution image than the VLA provided? Is it sampling some property the VLA image does not?

The ATA has less and shorter baselines, each made of much smaller collecting elements than the (E)VLA. Put simply, baselines bring resolution, collecting area brings sensitivity, and both are intricate (the longer the baseline, the more sensitivity you need).

Have a look also at VLBA techniques, which allow for even higher resolutions. Such a technique was used with the EHT to "image" the M87 blackhole.

Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by jdporter on Monday August 09, 2021 @09:48PM (#28124392)
Why do you say it's a non-SI unit? Seems to me it is. I mean, it's a derived unit, not a fundamental unit; but still SI.
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by ncmncm on Wednesday August 11, 2021 @02:37AM (#28138791)
I only quoted the Wikipedia page saying so. The component units are SI, but the 10^-26 factor looks arbitrary.
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by TacticalCoder on Sunday August 08, 2021 @10:33PM (#28112183)
Thanks, somehow with the headline I was thinking about imagining the old Cygnus text editor running on a PC boosted at 8.45 Ghz and was intrigued but wasn't too sure what ATA had to do with it!
Re:Imaging Cygnus a at 8.45 GHz with ATA by coverband on Monday August 09, 2021 @12:40AM (#28112811)
I similarly was thinking that this was about imaging an older Cyrus CPU…