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Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by jsnell on Sunday August 08, 2021 @12:33PM (#28107934)
There's some chutzpah in an anti-vaxxer pushing fraudulent Covid miracle cures and invoking Semmelweis in the very same post.
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by StuntPope on Sunday August 08, 2021 @12:34PM (#28107946)
Where is the anti-vax material in that post?
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by PhasmaFelis on Sunday August 08, 2021 @04:25PM (#28109790)
The part where he says that being snarky to vaccine deniers is literally just as bad as racism.

> “Covidiots”, “Deniers” these are not rational counter-arguments, they’re slurs. Anybody employing them is not engaging in discourse but rather bigotry and prejudice. This is as inexcusable as racism. Over the past few years many have been challenged to examine their own biases and privilege, in certain contexts for perfectly valid reasons. Anybody engaging in this type of othering toward skeptics and contrarians lacks self-awareness and empathy to the same degree as a racist.

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by robertlagrant on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:47AM (#28113106)
He didn't say they're as bad as racism. Inexcusable is not a synonym for bad.
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by PhasmaFelis on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:36PM (#28119748)
He uses the words "slur", "bigotry and prejudice", "as inexcusable as racism", and "lacks self-awareness and empathy to the same degree as a racist".

Does that seem any more reasonable and rational than "as bad as racism"?

I could even get behind the basic idea that ad hominem attacks are always bad, except that he's already launched an ad hominem attack against what he assumes are "purple-haired Millennials with nose hoops and personal pronoun mood-rings" in the same article! I don't see how to read this as anything but "snarky insults are reprehensible when they happen to me and totally justified when I throw them at someone else."

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by robertlagrant on Tuesday August 10, 2021 @07:26AM (#28127463)
Heh yeah fair point :-) Although even that is to some extent ad hominem; he might be being hypocritical, but that doesn't make the point itself wrong.
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by bena on Sunday August 08, 2021 @05:50PM (#28110440)
If the guy you responded to is not the author of that piece, he's connected to the site in some way.

I do not believe his question is in good faith, but is an attempt to deflect any criticism by instead forcing his critic to defend and explain in detail any such criticism before he even attempts to defend his half-baked ideas.

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by PhasmaFelis on Sunday August 08, 2021 @07:55PM (#28111317)
Yeah, there's definitely someone mass-downvoting anyone who criticizes the piece in any way. Dunno if it's that guy or not. But it doesn't hurt to have clear, concise answers to deflecting questions in the comments for skim-readers to see.
Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by bena on Sunday August 08, 2021 @09:35PM (#28111857)
Eh. Maybe not. As of late, in the past year or so, I forget the actual timeline, I've noticed a certain direction the overall tone of the comments and voting have taken.

It's been a little frustrating (I guess that's the word closest to what I'm feeling) as I've typically viewed HN as a place that went more for technology and science rather than... other things.

Re:Big Tech are supposed to be the plumbers, not patricians ... by PhasmaFelis on Monday August 09, 2021 @01:16AM (#28112957)
> As of late, in the past year or so, I forget the actual timeline, I've noticed a certain direction the overall tone of the comments and voting have taken.

I've noticed the same thing. It's unsettling.

I haven't always agreed with the HN consensus on things, but until quite recently that consensus seemed to be honest and well-intentioned.