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Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by dylan604 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @05:31PM (#28102017)
My favorite is finding errors on their side. I was tasked with finding the parking meters, and being told I was missing one. The "one" was an image of a mailbox, not a parking meter. Selecting the mailbox allowed it to say I was a human
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by zarzavat on Saturday August 07, 2021 @06:46PM (#28102558)
The reason this happens is that captchas are not localized. Most countries don't have mail boxes, only US, Canada, Australia, NZ have them so people from outside those countries may not think to distinguish mailboxes from parking meters and will just click every square that matches their mental model of a parking meter (a pole with something on top or a big box)
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by Zababa on Saturday August 07, 2021 @06:50PM (#28102575)
> Most countries don't have mail boxes (only US, Canada, Australia, NZ)

They do, they just look different. At least that's how it is in France.

Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by lou1306 on Sunday August 08, 2021 @05:27AM (#28105343)
They're not the same as the classic US mailbox (). In the US you can use such a mailbox to send mail as well. In Europe you typically have private letterboxes for incoming mail and big, public post boxes for sending.
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by mkl on Sunday August 08, 2021 @06:21AM (#28105649)
> classic US mailbox ()

Missing link? In NZ, and presumably other countries, personal letterboxes in rural areas can be used to send too, which I'm guessing is the same as what you're referring to.

Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by zarzavat on Sunday August 08, 2021 @09:31AM (#28106553)
Yes NZ is one of the four countries that use this style of full duplex mailbox. It hasn't caught on outside US/CA/AU/NZ, probably because (speculating here) it's not secure against theft and doubles the workload for the mailman.
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by lou1306 on Monday August 09, 2021 @04:52AM (#28114073)
Darn, the parentheses originally contained a mailbox emoji but I forgot HN does not support them.
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by dylan604 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @07:18PM (#28102746)
but that's not what the challenge is. it's more likely the database of training data is wrong. we've seen that to be very true from posts here on HN. some of the data was so horribly mis-identified, it's a wonder it works at all
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by Damogran6 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @09:13PM (#28103344)
Is a Bicycle a motorcycle? Will I kill one or the other by mis-categorizing it for the AI?
Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by dylan604 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @09:38PM (#28103502)
I mean, if we're just going to start saying "you know what I meant", then why use words that have meaning for anything?

Honestly, as a driver, when I see a bicycle, I make sure to provide as much room around them as possible. When I see a motorcycle from behind, I have no idea what the thought processes of the rider will be and just continue on in a straight line and allow them to make a decision. A bicycle in my rearview mirror poses no threat as they cannot keep up. A motorcycle can easily overtake in way ordinary cars cannot (between lanes, etc). They are much more difficult to predict. (not even taking into consideration the tendancy of motorcycle drivers being less risk averse).

So, if you want to teach the AI that a bicycle and a motorcycle are the same thing, then yes, you might inadvertantly lead to an AI making the wrong decision leading to a death. I wouldn't necessarily blame you for picking the wrong image in a captcha, but I'd definitely blame the devs for not sanitizing user input.

Re:Captcha pictures force you to look at the world the way a... by kenny11 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @05:35PM (#28102066)
I think I got that exact same one, and had the exact same problem with it. Maybe reasoning that it was confusing the mailbox for a parking meter was how I proved that I was a human to it.