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Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by JoeAltmaier on Saturday August 07, 2021 @08:39AM (#28098161)
Ha. Ban a weapon? That's worked so well. And a weapon that anybody with a few bucks and a picture of a target can make in their garage?

We have to become used to a world where technology violates every principle we used to consider table stakes for civilization. The challenge is to build some kind of stable society out of the mess we've made.

Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by fakesheriff on Saturday August 07, 2021 @11:56AM (#28099557)
Didn't a ban on space weapons forestall the weaponization of space by a few decades?

Didn't bans on chemical and biological weapons keep research in those fields small enough to prevent the emergence of politically potent factions with a pecuniary interest in their development?

The nuclear test ban treaties have held up well.

There is a big difference between "states openly develop these things and rich people lobby for more budget", and "states have secret programs as a hedge against noncompliance by the other side".

Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by MichaelZuo on Saturday August 07, 2021 @03:15PM (#28101073)
Ban on space weapons is an interesting point, as it was done early enough, the downsides were immediate enough, and the upsides far away enough, that it was politically doable.

Autonomous robots are much further along, relatively, and the upsides are realizable next year whereas the downsides are in the farther future. Does not seem promising.

Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by JoeAltmaier on Sunday August 08, 2021 @10:44AM (#28107080)
The point is, it doesn't take a state to develop an assassin drone. It takes a website and a shipping schedule.
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by fakesheriff on Sunday August 08, 2021 @11:18AM (#28107331)
But it does take a state to load out an MQ-180 with hellfires that will automatically target anyone whose IMSI has been within 100 yards of someone in the "disposition matrix".
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by chewz on Saturday August 07, 2021 @09:31AM (#28098456)
In Middle Ages Europe the Church had been trying to ban crosbows. It didn't work.
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by singularity2001 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @06:46AM (#28097552)
Interesting takeaway: killer drones as depicted in that famous yt video are currently deployed in the libyan conflict and explored in the Gaza conflict
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by djohnston on Saturday August 07, 2021 @07:47AM (#28097837)
Disagree. At this point I'm so disillusioned with the unbridled corruption of humanity I think I'd rather see us eliminated and replaced with machines. less harm to life on the planet in aggregate.
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by smt88 on Saturday August 07, 2021 @09:04AM (#28098302)
Safe to assume, then, that your misanthropy is not open to debate and is not shared by most of the rest of us who have families. Why even bother posting your opinion on it?
Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by salawat on Saturday August 07, 2021 @11:55AM (#28099545)
Sometimes it's better to get it out in the air so someone can reach out and provide a counter example?

You failed to, You provided a perfect example of "my family is more important than you" to the poster. The original poster may be in that stage between young adolescence before getting a partner and buying into the whole family shindig, may have tried and failed to build one, or may just be so technically disenfranchised with everyone else they read about's myopia, that they've just opted out.

You don't chastise a misanthrope. That makes it worse. You extend a helping hand to help crack at jaded sentiment to remind them there's still beauty to be found beneath the piles of refuse they may be surrounded by at the time.

I implore both of you to reexamine life as a non-traditional family builder.

Re:It’s time to ban autonomous killer robots before they bec... by smt88 on Sunday August 08, 2021 @12:03PM (#28107684)
> Sometimes it's better to get it out in the air so someone can reach out and provide a counter example?

HN is intended for "curious discussion". The person I responded to was not providing that.

> You don't chastise a misanthrope. That makes it worse.

I wasn't intending to make it better. It's not my responsibility to fix someone who thinks all humans deserve to die for offending nature. It's their responsibility, which probably requires help from a therapist, not an anonymous internet commenter.

> I implore both of you to reexamine life as a non-traditional family builder.

Who said I'm either traditional or a family builder?

I'm neither, but I was born with relatives, and those relatives are having children. So are my friends and many of the people around me.